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To: Judith Williams who wrote (33849)10/26/2000 7:16:42 PM
From: mtnlady  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
One thing that stands out to me in the difference between JDSU and NT and the sectors they both sell into. Nortel's sector is, by it's nature, "lumpy". In that sales tend to not be booked until equipment is installed. These installations are huge projects - in and of themselves money makers - but (!) the income from these projects comes in in *lumps*. So NT not only has to forecast sales of products but also installation of product.

JDSU, on the other hand, basically just sells product. The installation of the product is done by the likes of NT, LU and ALA. Their demand, and revenue, is going to be smoother and easier to predict.

Just a note for remembering. I remember last year when I had a large chunk of NT stock dropped into my lap via their buy out of Clarify (anybody remember them?). NT had the same issue last year with jolts and starts to their revenue line. I was used to a nice ramp up in revenue from my Clarify/SEBL holdings. No such luck with NT.

But the folks that followed NT a year ago - all pretty much folks who worked in the industry as NT wasn't a *big thing* yet to investors explained how Nortel's revenue stream was "lumpy" and that I shouldn't worry about it. NT is 'main stream' now and I think NT is going to have to do a better job of educating the analysts/press/investors now on their business model is different than a Cisco or JDSU. I was educated by others on the NT thread. Other investors may not be so lucky.

In short - NT will have to do an even better job with communication/education of the investing public than a JDSU will have to. We should watch and see if Roth learns from this. I think he will.



To: Judith Williams who wrote (33849)10/26/2000 10:23:15 PM
From: 100cfm  Respond to of 54805
 
Thanks for that great recap Judith.
It seems that the analysts were trying hard to dig out something negative especially re LU, don't they get it that LU is in the predicament because they lagged behind NT in optical and now have to accelaerate their efforts to catch up which only means more orders to JDSU.



To: Judith Williams who wrote (33849)10/27/2000 12:09:58 AM
From: chaz  Respond to of 54805
 
Judith,

thanks very much for the JDSU cc wrapup. I'm especially struck (positively) by the press to increase capacity. That sure puts the quash on hints of a slowdown.

Chaz



To: Judith Williams who wrote (33849)10/27/2000 9:34:41 AM
From: DownSouth  Respond to of 54805
 
Judith, thanks for the excellent recap on JDSU cc.

It appears that JDSU is responding to the FUD aggressively. The timing of their earnings report could not be better.



To: Judith Williams who wrote (33849)10/27/2000 10:28:22 AM
From: Apollo  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 54805
 
Judith:

thanx for the CC report on JDSU.
well done. <eom>



To: Judith Williams who wrote (33849)10/27/2000 10:04:36 PM
From: gc  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 54805
 
"Q1 over Q4, sales to three 10%ers grew slightly faster than those to other customers, whereas Q4 over Q3 the situation was reversed."

I am puzzled by this. The three 10%ers are LU,NT and Alcatel. How do we explain the fact that LU and NT have had slowdown in this quarter but still stockpiled the components from JDSU? Anyone cares to explain?