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To: Anthony@Pacific who wrote (61587)10/27/2000 11:01:28 AM
From: Anthony@Pacific  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 122087
 
.Investors Fail Fifth-Grade Arithmetic: David Pauly

(Published in the November issue of Bloomberg Markets
magazine. Commentary. David Pauly is a columnist for
Bloomberg news. His opinions are his own.)

New York, Oct. 27 (Bloomberg) -- I don't know what they
teach in fifth grade anymore, but there are oodles of
investors out there who can't do their sums.
That's a shame, because simple arithmetic would save
these folks enormous pain. It would stop them, for instance,
from buying shares in Juniper Networks Inc.
The stock of this manufacturer of routers for Internet
traffic has dropped 22 percent in the last eight trading
days as the whole market took a buffeting.
But Juniper still qualifies as red hot. At yesterday's
close of $190.13, the stock traded at 656 times what the
company earned in the previous 12 months.
Basic math -- dividing and multiplying -- makes it
obvious that it would take years for Juniper to justify that
price-earnings ratio. The average P/E ratio of a U.S. stock
is 26.
Pad-and-pencil figuring would reveal Juniper as a
prospective disaster akin to Qualcomm Inc. At the beginning
of this year, shares of Qualcomm, which licenses wireless
communications equipment, traded at more than 300 times
earnings. Qualcomm shares have dropped 64 percent since.
By understanding the significance of a minus sign,
investors would avoid the crowd that insists Internet
retailer Amazon.com Inc. is worth $13.1 billion even though
it has no clear profit prospects.

Plain Stores

After putting two and two together, our friends would
avoid paying 57 times profit for Kohl's Corp., which, though
growing fast, is a plain old department store chain -- an
intensely competitive trade.
Unfortunately, the times table and long division are
lost on today's investors. There's no doubt that Juniper
Networks of Sunnyvale, California, has stolen market share
from Cisco Systems Inc., the leading U.S. producer of
Investors Fail Fifth-Grade Arithmetic: David Pauly
computer network equipment. And analysts project that its
profit will grow, on average, 55 percent a year for five
years.
But look, Juniper earned just 29 cents a share in the
12 months ended in September. At the forecast growth rate,
it would be earning $2.59 a share five years from now. That
would reduce its price-earnings ratio based on today's
prices to 73.

Caveats

Even if you think that's a bargain for a promising
company, think twice. To get to that point, the analysts'
earnings projection would have to be right (dubious), the
stock couldn't budge for five years (virtually impossible)
and Juniper would have to drive Cisco out of business.
Investors continue to overrate companies even after
they fall -- as so many have in recent days. Qualcomm still
trades at 71 times its earnings. EBay Inc., the Internet
auction site, is valued at 309 times its profit though its
stock had fallen by more than half since spring. In the same
time, shares of Yahoo! Inc., the biggest search engine on
the Web, had dropped 72 percent from $201, but its P/E is
still 124.
Kohl's is based in Menomonee Falls, Wisconsin, and I
would like to root for the company because it looks like an
underdog. But should its price-earnings ratio be almost
double that of Wal-Mart Stores Inc., which has kept up its
rapid sales growth even though it's now the biggest U.S.
retailer?

Why?

Investors -- they are speculators really -- may pay
huge prices for stocks on the bet that P/E ratios now in the
100s will decline as earnings go up. The last couple of
weeks trading show it's more likely P/Es will go down
because the stocks go down.
Some may be buying stocks because of some gee-whiz
technology they don't understand. Fiber optics, for
instance, has been a good business. Venerable Corning Inc.,
the biggest manufacturer of fiber-optic cable, has reported
higher profit in each of the past seven quarters. When rival
Nortel Networks Corp.'s sales disappointed investors this
week, fiber optics shares plummeted. Corning's P/E -- more
than 100 just days ago -- is still 65.
Other people have persuaded themselves that earnings
don't count -- undaunted by the sight of profitless
Priceline.com Inc.'s plummeting to $5.06 a share from $165
in the spring of 1999. They kiss that off as an aberration
and buy another stock simply because it's rising. Go figure.

--David Pauly in the New York newsroom (212 318-2319) or at
{dpauly@Bloomberg.net}

Story illustration: For a graph showing price-earnings
ratios on Juniper Networks Inc. stock, type {JNPR US
<Equity> GE}



To: Anthony@Pacific who wrote (61587)10/27/2000 5:24:25 PM
From: LaShark  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 122087
 
Thanks,

From what I can tell the short went in around the $10 to $11 range a couple of weeks ago. 25k to 35k shares? Whew!

You have an excellent track record but I'd put my money on SEVU this time. Looking forward to the outcome of this.

Chris