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To: Donald Wennerstrom who wrote (56)10/29/2000 11:06:10 AM
From: scott_jiminez  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95396
 
There's now doubt the crow was served up hot and steaming regarding my position versus RD. On the one hand I still feel what he applied could only be called 'logic' by the most extreme, slinky-like stretch...the fact is the outcome he foresaw is reality.

One important clarification: while the insider selling at Klic did indeed occur near the peak, there was heavy insider selling throughout 1999 and into this year in the entire sector. Thus it remains my contention that the timing of the Klic selling was merely coincidental with the peak and not a reliable correlative measure. Again RD was lucky to be able to use this as HIS basis for the cyclical downturn (and there's a very strong likelihood there won't be insider buying prior to the next upturn). But to give RD credit where it's due - while everyone was screaming, 'This time REALLY IS different' we was saying, 'No, it isn't' and he was right.

And insofar as my outlook for the near-term future...



To: Donald Wennerstrom who wrote (56)10/30/2000 10:17:20 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 95396
 
Now it's 2004?

Silicon foundry sales remain strong until 2003, predicts Dataquest
By Mark LaPedus
Semiconductor Business News
(10/30/00, 05:29:10 PM EDT)

SAN DIEGO -- Demand for silicon foundry services is expected to remain strong for the next couple of years, but some analysts believe that a capacity-glut could hit this booming market with a major thud by 2003.

At present, though, there is still a shortage of worldwide foundry capacity, as vendors report that their fabs remain fully booked. And, demand still remains robust for these services from both fabless semiconductor houses and integrated device manufacturers (IDMs), said James Hines, analyst who tracks the industry segment for Dataquest Inc. of San Jose.

"We see the [foundry] market tripling by the time we get to 2003," said Hines in an interview after a presentation at the "Dataquest Semiconductors 2000" conference here today. "But I expect the market will move into an overcapacity situation in 2003 and 2004," he warned.

Hines projected that the worldwide silicon foundry market will have an annual compound growth rate of 25.4% from 1999 to 2004. In terms of total revenues, the silicon foundry market is projected to grow from $7.5 billion in 1999, to $11.5 billion in 2000, to $16.2 billion in 2001, to $20.4 billion by 2002, Hines said.

But in 2003 and 2004, the market will "flatten out" due to a period of "overspending" in fab capacity in this arena, he said. In terms of total sales, the foundry market will only grow from $22.3 billion in 2003, to $23.3 billion in 2004, he said.

For now, though, the market looks healthy, thanks in part to a surge in business from the IDMs, which own and operate wafer fabs. "The trend [among many IDMs] is to move to a fabless model," he said. "In the near term, IDMs will operate with "fab lite" model," added Hines, referring to one strategy to mix internal and external manufacturing sources. "Many other IDMs will make a transition into a foundry model."