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To: Ali Chen who wrote (126999)	10/30/2000 12:46:50 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1570574

Ali - RE: "Sorry, I was looking. Did not find any yet. If what you say is true, the 133/266 DDR must really fly on SPECfp. I did not recall any SPEC numbers on AMD web site too. " I was disappointed about that too. SPEC is supposed to be very memory bandwidth hungry so I expect the 760 platform to improve scores noticeable. I'd really like to see SPECint scores for the Athlon. AMD's hiding behind the curtain with this...

To: Ali Chen who wrote (126999)	10/30/2000 1:39:23 AM
From: milo_morai	Respond to of 1570574

Ali I guess you have to live with this SiSoft Sandra 2000 result for now. sharkyextreme.com " The Corona system really performs here, with bandwidth numbers higher than we've ever seen before. The CPU score of 567MB/s is 17% above the 1.2GHz system equipped with normal SDRAM. More impressive though, is the FPU bandwidth score of 779MB/s – a full 43% more than the 1.2GHz system paired with a KT133 motherboard. Now that we've seen theoretical numbers, let's take a look at something a bit more tangible.

To: Ali Chen who wrote (126999)	10/30/2000 3:36:50 AM
From: ptanner	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570574

Ali, Re: "There is also none of the usual system-level benchmarks, no Winstones, no BAPCO SYSmark2000." Sharky had BAPCO SYSmark2000 but the results were very poor: See: sharkyextreme.com "Oddly enough, the DDR-equipped system is bested by the comparable PC133 system. This kind of showing is disappointing, but further hope lies in the system drivers, as SYSMark is another hard disk-dependant benchmark. Hopefully AMD can brush up on the performance of their new hard drive controller." AMD's Benchmarks for SYSmark2000 were slightly more positive (+3% @ 1.2GHz), see amd.com In case you didn't already see this, link to AMD's general set of comparisons they chose to present: amd.com -PT

To: Ali Chen who wrote (126999)	10/30/2000 7:39:28 AM
From: ptanner	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570574

Ali, Anand's article is up includes SPEC numbers... anandtech.com Shortcut to SPEC: anandtech.com Will leave details to others to discover and comment since I would like to finish reading before trying to sleep. EDIT - Had to add a quote: Intel’s current fastest setup is the i840 with the Pentium III 1GHz, and the 1GHz Athlon on the AMD 760 has no problem trampling all over that solution. A combination of the new 266MHz FSB and its PC2100 DDR SDRAM provide for this 25% performance lead. We expect that the new Intel Compilers (v5.0) will improve performance another 10% or so in this benchmark for the Intel CPUs, still leaving the Athlon/AMD 760 with a decent lead. From what we’ve seen though this level of performance won’t be enough to compete with the Pentium 4, luckily AMD can also compete on the basis of price and they also have another ace up their sleeves which they have yet to reveal. -PT

To: Ali Chen who wrote (126999)	10/30/2000 11:34:32 AM
From: milo_morai	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1570574

<font color=orange>SPEC CFP2000 Performance Time constraints kept us from completing the 6 to 8 hour run of SPECfp2000 on the KT133 chipset, however we managed to get individual scores for it which you will see shortly. But let’s look at how the AMD 760 stacks up to the i840 and i815 in SPECfp2000. Intel’s current fastest setup is the i840 with the Pentium III 1GHz, and the 1GHz Athlon on the AMD 760 has no problem trampling all over that solution. A combination of the new 266MHz FSB and its PC2100 DDR SDRAM provide for this 25% performance lead. We expect that the new Intel Compilers (v5.0) will improve performance another 10% or so in this benchmark for the Intel CPUs, still leaving the Athlon/AMD 760 with a decent lead. From what we’ve seen though this level of performance won’t be enough to compete with the Pentium 4, luckily AMD can also compete on the basis of price and they also have another ace up their sleeves which they have yet to reveal. The performance advantage is severely reduced with just bare minimum compiler optimizations, and as we’re about to find out this isn’t the only time we’ll see that happen. Let's start out by looking at the breakdown of the SPECfp2000 scores... anandtech.com Milo