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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54644)10/30/2000 11:19:20 AM
From: Shadow  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Nadine,
Texas Air NAtional Guard pilots go through the same
training USAF pilots do.
Its a 52 week course which W completed.
The course had a 50% washout rate and many trainees
were killed in crashes.
He volunterred for active duty US Air Force 3 time
and was denied 3 times. I'm sure his daddy had something to do with that.
How long was the training course Al "do anything" Gore
completed to run that typewriter?



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54644)10/30/2000 11:25:35 AM
From: Futurist  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 769670
 
For the relatively few friends of tough mindedness on this emotion laden board (from the Louisville Courier Journal):

Gore for president
Published: October 22, 2000

HOWEVER the presidential campaign goes from
here, American voters will have clear alternatives in
both substance and style when they choose
between Vice President Al Gore and Gov. George W.
Bush of Texas on Election Day.

William Safire, the generally conservative and
pro-Republican columnist for The New York Times,
put it well -- though in understated fashion
regarding Gov. Bush -- in a column published
Friday in The Forum: "Gore is truly tough-minded,
stupefyingly experienced and unabashedly divisive,
while Bush is truly amiable and not all that deep
and all too eager to unify."

Those distinctions seem to turn many voters away
from the combative Mr. Gore and toward the more
genial Gov. Bush. They move us -- and we hope a
sufficient number of voters -- in the opposite
direction: We find Mr. Gore, the Democrat, to be
clearly the superior candidate, and we endorse him.

Mr. Gore offers sounder proposals for safeguarding
Americans' economic security and for advancing
American interests and principles abroad.

To his credit, Gov. Bush, as governor and
candidate, has been more moderate and
non-ideological than much of the Republican Party.
As with Mr. Gore's choice of Sen. Joe Lieberman,
Gov. Bush has selected a running mate, Dick
Cheney, capable of assuming the presidency, if
necessary.

However, Gov. Bush demonstrates an intellect and
grasp of issues that are mediocre, to be generous.
His arguments rely heavily on memorized
clich{AAes and bromides. His claims of "leadership"
and consensus-building skills ring hollow when they
rest on such marginal fitness for the presidency.

Of the two principal third-party candidates, neither
the Green Party's Ralph Nader, offering Luddite
opposition to corporations and the global economy,
nor the Reform Party's Pat Buchanan, appealing to
protectionist and anti-immigrant sentiments, merits
serious consideration.

Domestically, the central challenge for the next
president is to use the current, but temporary,
budget surplus wisely and to prepare for the years
ahead when the surplus -- without shifts in
revenues and/or expenditures -- will disappear.

Gov. Bush threatens to deplete the surplus with a
massive tax cut weighted heavily and
unconscionably toward the very rich and by diverting
Social Security funds into private investment
accounts.

Mr. Gore stated the dilemma expertly during the
second debate: "If you squander the surplus on a
huge tax cut that goes mostly to those at the top,
then you can't make education the top priority. If
the tax cut is your No. 1, 2, 3 and 4 priority, you
can't do education. You can't do both. You have to
choose."

Gov. Bush has shown no intention of choosing,
however. He alternately ignores the challenge,
dismisses it as "fuzzy math," makes a ludicrous
claim such as that the poor will be the biggest
beneficiaries of his plan or, as in the final debate,
is simply unable to recall enough information about
his own tax proposal to fill two minutes' time.

Mr. Gore's tax plan follows the Clinton era formula of stressing credits for such
expenses as college education, child care, retirement savings and health insurance.
Whether this is a better approach than offering everyone savings through reduced
tax rates in the middle and lower brackets, as Gov. Bush's plan would accomplish,
is an issue for legitimate debate. But at the least, Mr. Gore's approach doesn't turn
over so much of the surplus to the rich.

Gov. Bush's plan for Social Security, the most popular American safety-net program,
is even more radical.

His proposal to allow some Social Security income to be diverted into private
accounts would empty the trust fund almost 15 years ahead of projections.
Moreover, younger workers for whom private accounts were established would
receive lower benefits, striking at the program's central promise of a guaranteed
income for retirees.

Mr. Gore has lacked the boldness to address the inevitable hard choice for saving
the program: higher taxes or lower benefits. But he has promised to pump more
money from general revenues into Social Security, and he would not threaten the
fund through private accounts or oversized tax cuts.

Meanwhile, neither candidate adequately tackles the even tougher issue of
Medicare's solvency. The threat posed by a predictable increase in recipients in an
aging population is magnified by the uncertainties of spiraling health costs, which in
turn are certain to be expanded by the candidates' plans to provide prescription
drug coverage.

But the Clinton-Gore administration did engineer cuts in Medicare payments in 1993
that kept the program in the black, and Mr. Gore does suggest saving the Medicare
surpluses of the next 10 years as a cushion against coming shortfalls.

Mr. Bush generally favors an approach that will direct seniors toward managed care.
Given that government coffers would be badly depleted by the Bush tax cut, that
care would likely be minimal for elderly people who cannot afford to supplement
their coverage with their own money.

Taxes and the surplus also cast shadows across the ambitious education policies
that both candidates have stressed.

Mr. Gore's proposals, though appealing when taken one by one, are flawed. His A-Z
approach -- including universal preschool, hiring new teachers and subsidizing their
pay and training, school construction and more charter schools -- would cost, by his
estimate, $115 billion. Those expenditures depend on budget expectations that
are likely too optimistic, but Mr. Gore probably could find money for some of his
plans.

Gov. Bush has a big-state governor's perspective on education. And while we have
reservations about his plans for private school vouchers for low-income students in
failing schools, he makes his case well, as he does for emphasis on reading, high
standards, accountability and lifting poor children. His proposals would cost only a
fraction of Mr. Gore's, but as the Vice President rightly asks, Would Mr. Bush's tax
cuts leave room for any increases in federal education spending?

In the other critical area, foreign affairs, Mr. Gore's experience in Congress and as
Vice President is wide and deep. While he certainly favors choosing America's fights
carefully, he envisions an assertive American policy that promotes democracy and
American values.

While he is vague, Gov. Bush appears simply more hesitant to use American power.
If, as he implies, his chief foreign-policy advisers would be Colin Powell and
Condoleezza Rice, he is certain to follow a less muscular policy that underestimates
the importance of American leadership.

When he tries to be specific, the thinness of Gov. Bush's knowledge can be
astonishing. During the second debate, for example, Gov. Bush supported the
calamitous American intervention in Lebanon in 1983, said he would not have
intervened in the face of imminent chaos off our shores in Haiti, seemed not to
know that the great majority of peacekeeping troops in the Balkans are Europeans
and not Americans, and implied that there are no countries with black populations
of significance to the United States.

A particular worry is Gov. Bush's premature embrace of a missile defense system.
In addition to endangering nuclear arms control, the missile defense program
threatens to become a sinkhole for countless billions of dollars and as yet holds no
realistic promise of working. Mr. Gore is also supportive, but wants to proceed more
deliberately.

There are, of course, other important issues.

Gov. Bush has muted his opposition to abortion, and it may be that he recognizes
abortion rights are here to stay, despite his own personal convictions. But he may
also be a wolf in sheep's clothing. Mr. Gore's support of a woman's right to choose
an abortion is unequivocal, and he is far more to be trusted in protecting this right
and choosing wisely to fill vacancies on the Supreme Court and federal bench.

Moreover, whatever his fund-raising sins in the past, Mr. Gore strongly endorses the
McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform. Gov. Bush backs alternatives that would,
in practice, stymie reform.

We wish that Mr. Gore had stressed his powerful environmental commitment. We
wish both candidates had addressed such neglected areas as race, combatting
poverty, stemming the AIDS epidemic and reassessing the federal war on drugs. In
such a tight race, both men obviously steered away from issues that could alienate
groups of voters.

But even with some blank spaces, the choice is clear:

Al Gore offers superior stature, ability and vision for national leadership. He should
be elected.



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54644)10/30/2000 11:27:41 AM
From: Ish  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Here's the plane Bush flew in the Air National Guard-

wpafb.af.mil

Convair F-102 "Delta Dagger"
The primary mission of the F-102 was to intercept and destroy enemy aircraft. It was the world's first supersonic all-weather jet interceptor and the USAF's first operational delta-wing aircraft. The F-102 made its initial flight on Oct. 24, 1953 and became operational with the Air Defense Command in 1956. At the peak of deployment in the late 1950's, F-102s equipped more than 25 ADC squadrons. Convair built 1,000 F-102s, 875 of which were F-102As. The USAF also bought 111 TF-102s as combat trainers with side-by-side seating.
In a wartime situation, after electronic equipment on board the F-102 had located the enemy aircraft, the F-102's radar would guide it into position for attack. At the proper moment, the electronic fire control system would automatically fire the F-102's air-to-air rockets and missiles.

TYPE
YF-102
YF-102A
F-102A
TF-102A
F-102B Number built/Converted
10
4
875
111
0 Remarks
Prototype
Area rule YF-102;
Interceptor
Dual-cockpit trainer
Became F-106
SPECIFICATIONS
Span: 38 ft. 1 in.
Length: 68 ft. 4 in. (including boom)
Height: 21 ft. 2 in.
Weight: 31,559 lbs. max.
Armament: 24 unguided 2.75 inch rockets and six guided missiles
Engine: One Pratt & Whitney J57 of 16,000 lbs. thrust with afterburner
Cost: $1,184,000
PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed: 810 mph.
Cruising speed: 600 mph.
Range: 1,000 miles
Service Ceiling: 55,000 ft.

Convair F-102 photo gallery

Convair YF-102
At the Convair assembly plant - S/N 52-7994, 2 Oct 53; the date of completion for the first airframe. 1 Apr 52 was the start date of the detail design. 1 May 53 was the date of design completion.
3/4 front view - S/N 52-7994. This is the first YF-102 built.
3/4 front top view - S/N 52-7994 on Rogers Dry Lake.
Landing - S/N 52-7994
3/4 front view - S/N 52-7995, the second YF-102 built.
Landing with drag chute - S/N 53-1781. Note the drag chute is deployed while the aircraft is still airborne.
In flight - S/N 53-1782
In flight (color) - S/N 53-1782
Convair YF-102A "Hot Rod"
In flight - S/N 53-1787. The first YF-102A built. The YF-102A was a major redesign of the YF-102. To overcome high drag loads at transonic speeds, Convair engineers redesigned the fuselage and wing. The fuselage design used the "area-rule" which resulted in the characteristic "coke bottle" shape.
Convair F-102A
Landing - S/N 53-1791, the first F-102A built.
2 aircraft take off - S/N 56-1067 and 56-1018 of the 111 Fighter Interceptor Squadron, Texas Air National Guard.
2 aircraft formation - S/N 56-1212 and 56-1138
In flight firing GAR-1 missiles - S/N 57-0825
In flight - S/N 53-1809
Landing with drag chute - F-102A-75-LO S/N 56-1279 of the 317th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, May 1969.
In flight - S/N 53-1809
3 aircraft take off - 327th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, George AFB, CA. S/N 54-1400 is the first aircraft.
In flight front view - S/N 53-1809
In flight (color) - S/N 55-3372
3/4 front view (color) S/N 56-1268 of the 317th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, Elmendorf AFB, Alaska, January 1958.
Take off (color) - of the 57th Fighter Interceptor Squadron, Keflavik AFB, Iceland
Landing (color) - S/N 56-1394 of the 57th FIS, Keflavik AFB, Iceland.
On the runway - S.N 56-1394, 57th FIS, Keflavik AFB, Iceland.
In flight intercepting a Soviet "Bear" bomber - S/N 55-1350.
Cockpit flight simulator mock-up
MC-3 fire control system mock-up


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Convair TF-102A "Delta Dagger"
Fighter Gallery



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54644)10/30/2000 12:00:39 PM
From: Joseph F. Hubel  Respond to of 769670
 
<Such as the main forces reshaping the rest of the world.>
********
Gore does not even understand the main forces reshaping Gore. Each day he is a different Gore, A more confused and frustrated Gore. By the end of this campaign I doubt if he will recognize himself.

Yes Bush was a jet pilot and yes some Guard units are air units and yes many of the Gulf War air units were Guard units.

JFH



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54644)10/30/2000 12:03:39 PM
From: Neocon  Respond to of 769670
 
You do not even know that the National Guard has an Air Guard component, and that Bush qualified to fly jet fighters, and you are worried about his ignorance?



To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (54644)10/30/2000 9:38:51 PM
From: Alex Mt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
intellectually curious, and interested in government??
The guy is just an ambitious crook:

WND Exclusive
ELECTION 2000

Gore book author withdraws support
'I mistook your ambition for leadership. Your struggle with the truth is depressing'

By Charles Thompson and Tony Hays
© 2000 WorldNetDaily.com

A former FBI agent who specialized in Tennessee political corruption and wrote one of the earliest and most positive biographies of Vice President Al Gore has taken out ads in the Nashville Tennessean newspaper publicly withdrawing his support from Gore.
Henderson "Hank" Hillin, a 26-year veteran of the FBI and a one-time sheriff of Davidson County, Tenn. (Nashville), took the extraordinary step because, as he said in his ads, "I no longer admire the VP, no longer trust his character or integrity. Al, I mistook your ambition for leadership. Your struggle with the truth is depressing."
His 1988 biography, "Al Gore Jr.: Born to Lead," was a highly flattering account of Gore's life leading up to his aborted run for the presidency that year.
Hillin is considered one of the straightest arrows of the "old" FBI, a man committed to law, honesty and ethics. His abrupt turnaround shocked some of his acquaintances, but Hillin talked to WorldNetDaily about why he ran the ads.
"I just couldn't take it anymore," Hillin said. "There was just so much of it [Gore's exaggerations]." Gore's dishonesty, said Hillin, plus revelations of the vice president's fundraising activities among Chinese groups and his association with Soviet agent and American entrepreneur Armand Hammer, <http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_exnews/20001003_xex_gores_talbot.shtml> made Hillin's decision for him.
"When Gore took all that money from the Chinese, that was the end of it. One of the last communist powers in the world and here was Gore cozying up to them," Hillin said. "When I wrote the biographies of Gore Jr., I wasn't aware of how closely connected he was with Armand Hammer. Hammer was definitely a Soviet agent," continued the former FBI agent. "I'm not campaigning for anyone. I just feel like he really let me down. I feel like Al has gotten under the influence of bad people."
And in a blow straight to the heart of Gore's credibility gap, the ads say, "Sorry, Mr. VP, but Bill Bradley said it first and best: 'If we can't trust you as a candidate, then how can we trust you in the White House?'" The ads also take Gore to task for such moves as "flip-flopping on abortion" and his ill-considered tolerance of President Clinton's 'immorality' in the White House.
Hillin led the investigation into the infamous Tennessee pardons and paroles scandal of the late 1970s and '80s. Aides to then-Gov. Ray Blanton were selling releases from Tennessee state prisons for as much as $10,000 each. The FBI probe resulted in the unprecedented early swearing-in of Blanton's successor, Lamar Alexander, in 1978, three days before the planned inauguration. Tennessee officials, including current Lt. Gov. John Wilder and then-house speaker (and later governor) Ned McWherter, were afraid Blanton was set to sign another batch of pardons on the eve of his departure from office.
Eventually two top Blanton aides and a high-ranking state trooper were indicted and convicted in the scam. Author Peter Maas wrote a fluff book called "Marie," detailing the story of Marie Ragghianti, a member of Blanton's pardons and paroles board, which Frank Capra Jr. filmed in 1985. Hillin himself penned his first book on the case called "FBI: Codename TennPar." Blanton eventually went to prison, convicted of selling liquor licenses in Davidson County. The pardons and paroles case spawned a federal bid-rigging investigation that resulted in indictments against 249 corporate defendants and 251 individual defendants in 20 states.
After his retirement from the FBI, Hillin began work on an unauthorized biography of Gore in preparation for his run for president in 1988. His book lauded Gore as "America's most promising and outstanding candidate for national office since President John F. Kennedy." A rework of the book, "Al Gore Jr.: His life and career," appeared in time for the 1992 campaign.
Hillin's ads come at a critical time in the campaign for Tennessee, just as Gov. George W. Bush is showing a slight lead in the state. What impact, if any, this major defection will have on the Gore numbers is yet to be seen, but Gore campaign spokesperson Tina Moffat expressed disappointment at Hillin's decision.
"It's unfortunate that he feels that way," she told the Nashville Scene, "but he's entitled to his own opinion."