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To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (115254)	10/30/2000 6:53:32 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Brian, >Anyone who thinks SUNW is a great tech name should read this: Yes, that's from the Forbes article that we analyzed and took apart yesterday. Conclusion was that Sun did not design into even their highest priced flagship servers a reliability feature that has been around for years: cache ECC. IBM and HP have it on their Unix servers and even the much lower price Intel based servers have had it since about 1997. Still, the Sun mystique persists...for now. Check this from the article: "I said to Sun, 'My God, you knew about this problem, and you didn't tell me? That's unconscionable,' " he says.Verisign still uses Sun for some tasks but has moved important systems onto IBM Unix servers. Tony

To: Proud_Infidel who wrote (115254)	10/30/2000 7:02:41 PM
From: Saturn V	Respond to of 186894

Ref < Anyone who thinks SUNW is a great tech name should read this > The thread dissected this issue, yesterday. Sun did a real sloppy job in designing Ultrasparc II. They did not have ECC( error correction circuitry) on their L2 cache. [ Intel's PII and P3 have the feature. ] To compound this oversight, they appear to have had no soft error characterization and inspection procedure on the memory used for L2. The memory vendor's chips were soft error prone, leading to system crashes. This raises serious questions about Sun's technical capability. Now Sun is scrambling to perform Damage Control. Hopefully this will boost the sales of Intel's based servers. They are not only more cost effective, but more reliable.