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To: maui_dude who wrote (115301)10/31/2000 8:37:04 AM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Maui,

I was trying to get an idea of how the .13 process for AMD and Intel stack up at this point.

I don't know if there is anyone who can predict this accurately. Let's just say that both companies will get there in 2001. I have no idea who will be first.

However, given that Tualatin is on .13 and sledgehammer will not be on .13 until after Tualatin, suggest to me that a) either AMD is behind Intel on .13 or b) Intel is taking a lot of risk on .13 with Tualatin.

Tualatin is an old P6 core that has been around for ages, so it's a good vehicle for ramping .13u process. Hammer is a completely new design. I don't know why, of all cores, you are focusing on Hammer vs. Tualatin. I think the timing of .13u will be
1. Tualatin
2. Mustang
3. P4
4. Hammer
5. Itanium

with 1, 2, and 3 arriving within relatively short time period from Q2 to Q3.

Joe



To: maui_dude who wrote (115301)10/31/2000 12:44:44 PM
From: Jim McMannis  Respond to of 186894
 
RE:"However, given that Tualatin is on .13 and sledgehammer will not be on .13 until after Tualatin, suggest to me that a) either AMD is behind Intel on .13 or b) Intel is taking a lot of risk on .13 with Tualatin"

a. No way. Especially if you throw in the Copper factor.
b. Why? If your going to .13u and copper why not do it with proven 7 year old core? The risk seems to be qualifying .13u (new process) at the same time...