To: The Philosopher who wrote (4389 ) 11/2/2000 10:39:28 AM From: Jim S Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 13056 Nuts, Christopher. Here we are just getting to the good part of this discussion, and I have to leave in a few minutes for a several day long trip. So, quickly: All the teachers displaced by vouchers wouldn't be going to the private school system. I'd venture to guess that only a small percentage would, and they'd be the better ones. A better argument for your side would be that only the worst teachers would stay in the public schools, and they'd have either tenure or longevity. Please clarify your thoughts on the per capita budget for the students who remain in a public school -- if half the students take the vouchers and leave, and the vouchers represent 1/2 of the tax money available per student, the school gets a 50% increase(*)in their per student budget. So they effectively have more money available to educate the high cost students, and perhaps more importantly, they can provide more individualized attention than they can under the current system. Your "class division" points carry some weight with me. I am pretty egalitarian, and such an impermiable distiction is certainly a social ill that needs to be corrected. That said, how should it be done? Public schools try to remove that barrior by holding back high achievers, and only the rarest of the rare can escape being molded into the shape of mediocre mass public schools excrete. So, which is preferable -- bringing the top half down or trying to push the bottom half up? But, I gotta go. If we're still on this topic in a couple of days, I'd like to continue then. jim (*) assume a $100/student budget with 10 students. That's $1000. Now, assume a $50 voucher for half the students, or $250 taken away, leaving $750 in the total budget. That's ($750/5 students)=$150/student, a 50% increase.