To: Frederick Smart who wrote (34571 ) 11/2/2000 2:24:26 PM From: PJ Strifas Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42771 Did you read the same story I did about a kid hammering nails into a fence? The fence does not represent any one person or thing in fact, to me the fence only represents the point of the kid's anger. He was angry so he nailed a nail into the wood. This act in itself is not symbolic at all (I'll get to that in a moment). It helps to set up the real symbolizm in the parable but it is not the main point. So later when the kid realized that all this anger was bad, he was told to go and remove the nails. Again, this act is not symbolic of anything. It goes to the setup of the lesson to be learned. Do yo get that so far? Now, after all this - the kid is asked to take a good look at the fence and notice all the holes. Now here is the symbolism - the holes represent scars (physical or mental) that occured to others because of the anger. It's a physical representation that the kid (and reader) can visualize and carry with them. So that's the moral of the story. Again, you liken yourself to a martyr (or on this thread as a victim) so you may "enlighten" us all with your trials. You are not the fence. Scott is not the fence and nor is Steware Nelson. The fence is not symbolic in the story of any "thing or being" so in that sense, it can not represent any thing or being. It's the scars or better put - the damage inflicted by the hammering of so many nails into the wood that is the symbol! This is meant to show the kid that uncontrolled anger is a BAD thing (that being the DAMAGE he caused!). In short, a very good learning lesson for anyone who reads it. Now you have co-opted it to make a statement that you are unjustly attacked by people. I'd like to forgive you but how was it said...."he without sin cast the first stone?" So who am I to judge and therefore forgive because I would do so based on my own value system! That's where some people find the arrogance. Who are you to judge and forgive anyone? Better yet, who are you to tell us that you have judged and forgave based on your own value system!?! You know what, that's nice Fred but really, forgiveness is something you do for yourself. To actually TELL someone else that you forgive them is arrogant. Just do it and find happiness/peace within yourself. For someone else to know you have done so does not enhance anything (except maybe your self-esteem). Regards, Peter J Strifas PS - my apologies to those who read this thread for information on trading in Novell stock. I will refrain from the "off-topic" remarks on this subject after this post.