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To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17530)	11/3/2000 1:19:56 PM
From: Ali Chen	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Dan, <Intel has turned SPEC into a compiler+hardware benchmark, rather than a hardware benchmark, and I think that needs to be made clear.> It always has been a hardware+compiler benchmark, by definition of portability across platforms, and as declared by SPEC from the very beginning. People are comparing Sun, HP, IBM and other workstations. I guess you are not asking to use MS Visual C on Suns to compile SPECs? Regards, - Ali

To: Daniel Schuh who wrote (17530)	11/3/2000 3:20:21 PM
From: andreas_wonisch	Respond to of 275872

Dan, Re: I think including spec numbers generated from more, er, mainstream compilers would be a great idea. Yes, I think that would be the most reasonable solution since virtually no "real life" applications use the optimized compilers from AMD or Intel. I will email Anand this proposal -- maybe he can use an additional Microsoft compiler in his next review (i.e. P4) although it will take another 24h of running the Spec Suite. But since 99% of all available applications are compiled with standard compilers this should be the most relevant information for the user. Andreas