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To: Rarebird who wrote (60472)11/3/2000 2:53:56 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
OK, I've read a 2nd report that shows he was actually arrested, you are right, I am wrong.
msnbc.com

Now will we talk about Gore's lies also - that you have determined no liar should be in office?

Need I really go get that ugly list?



To: Rarebird who wrote (60472)11/3/2000 3:14:11 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116764
 
<<All of this lying has got to stop, >>

Starting where?

I was there with James Lee Witt...oh, wait....
In the Presidential debate on October 3, 2000, Governor George W. Bush gave credit to the Federal Emergency Management Service (FEMA) for their work in Texas during fires and floods in Parker County. Vice President Al Gore said he had traveled to see the damage with FEMA director James Lee Witt, "I was down there when the fires broke up." Carl Cameron, of Fox News first reported that Gore had not, in fact, been to Texas with Witt to look at the damage in Parker County. Gore WAS in Texas, but FEMA officials said Witt never went to Texas to deal with the 1998 fires.

I was part of those discussions! Really!
At a Sept. 22 press conference, Gore stated "I've been a part of the discussions on the strategic reserve since the days when it was first established." However, President Ford established the Strategic Petroleum Reserves when he signed the Energy Policy and Conservation Act (EPCA) on December 22, 1975 — two years before Al Gore became a congressman
(Source: Washington Post, Sept. 24 2000)
(note: it was actually 13 months, not 2 years as the Post states)
Now, technically, 1975 was when it was declared U.S. policy to establish a reserve, but the reserve was not established (sites purchased or built, etc) until 1977, when Gore was in Congress. However, isn't this yet another case of "fuzzy wording"? Gore phrases the initial statement to give the impression that he was somehow responsible or "part of something" from the outset, but leaves wiggle room so that he can later justify the statement. And isn't saying he was part of "discussions on the strategic reserve" meant tp leave the impression that he was was part of the planning process, prior to the sites being purchased, etc? Decide for yourself.

A dog's health care costs less than my mother-in-law's!
Vice President Al Gore, reaching for a personal example to illustrate the breathtaking costs of some prescription drugs, told seniors in Florida last month that his mother-in-law pays nearly three times as much for the same arthritis medicine used for his ailing dog, Shiloh. "That's pretty bad when you have got to pretend to be a dog or a cat to get a price break" he stated. Gore's mother-in-law does pay more for her medication, but the generic brand of the drug, which 85% of Americans now use as a cheaper alternative, costs half as much, or one and a half times what it costs for the pooch - not three times. In addition, given the complexities of the marketplace, and the steps people take to get a better deal, it can work the other way around: Pets "pretending" to be humans. The Gore campaign also admitted that it lifted those costs not from his family's bills, but from a House Democratic study, and that Gore misused even those numbers: They represent the manufacturer's price to wholesalers, not the retail price of the brand-name product.
Drug costs often cost more for humans, though, because they are more heavily regulated. Jeff Trewhett, the spokesman for the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers Association of America, said the higher costs for the human version of patented drugs is justified because the research, development, and approval costs can surpass $500 million per drug. But once the drug is approved for humans, the cost to test and approve it for animals is minimal, he said. Interestingly enough, Gore is proposing more regulations on on top of what we have now. Our food also costs 3 times as much as the dog's... will Gore say that we have to pretend to be dogs to get affordable food?
(Source: "Gore misstates facts in drug-cost pitch" Boston Globe, 9/18/2000 )

Gore and the Internet
"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet" Gore said when asked to cite accomplishments that separate him from another Democratic presidential hopeful, former Sen. Bill Bradley of New Jersey, during an interview with Wolf Blitzer on CNN on March 9, 1999.
Gore supported technological advances related to the advancement of the Internet, but to say that HE took the initiative in creating the Internet is a bit much.
(Sources: Transcript: cnn.com

wired.com
(Note: Lots of people seem to enjoy e-mailing me, professing that my information about Gore saying he "invented" the Internet is wrong, that he did support things which helped get the Internet moving, etc etc. First, I know he never said he "invented" the Internet. Please notice the quote above. Second, saying that he took the initiative in CREATING the Internet is still a funny statement since the Internet was already created and being used (ex: file copying via the UUCP protocol and e-mail) by the time he was elected to Congress. One can't take the "initiative" to "create" something which is already created.)

Mary and Joseph were homeless??
"Speaking from my own religious tradition in this Christmas season, 2,000 years ago a homeless woman gave birth to a homeless child in a manger because the inn was full."
Hello! Mary and Joseph were not homeless!
(Sources: Press Conference at HUD, 12/22/97; George Will column, Sunday May 17 1998)

James who?
In his first appearance in a nationally televised candidates forum, Gore was asked to name a past US president from whom he drew personal inspiration. He replied that he especially admired another "dark horse" candidate, and a product of his home state, the great "president James Knox". The only problem is that the history books show that nobody named Knox ever occupied the White House.
(Source: Chicago Tribune of 7/24/87; The British Sunday Times; Michael Medved of KVI radio (570 AM based in Seattle).

Al Gore, when asked about his illegal fundraising activities that took place in a Buddhist temple: "I didn't realize I was in a Buddhist temple."

Stretching the truth again....
"I was the author of that proposal. I wrote that....That is something for which I have been the principal proponent for a long time."
Al Gore in a Time Interview, on the EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT (EITC). Now, this is interesting, since the EITC became law in 1975, a year BEFORE Gore was elected to Congress.
(Source: Time Magazine November 1, 1999 Vol. 154 No. 18)

At a special summit meeting in Washington, Vice President Al Gore delivered a speech in which he decried hunger in America. Declaring that ``All is not right with America,'' Gore announced that there are ``millions of Americans ... who are simply not getting enough to eat'' because they cannot ``figure out how to make ends meet, how to get food on the table.'' What's more, chronic hunger routinely causes children to lay awake at night, tormented by a ``sore pain.'' This problem is ``appalling,'' a ``tragedy,'' a ``blight on our nation's soul.'' Gore concluded, ``We cannot stand by and let people in this nation starve.'' Secretary of Agriculture Dan Glickman likewise determined that one in three children ``live in families that do constant battle with hunger'' and are ``at constant risk of malnutrition and the lifetime of chronic illness that can accompany it.''

But the Centers for Disease Control's ``National Health and Nutrition Survey'' has found no significant nutritional deficiency in any segment of the nation's population. Another CDC report notes that life expectancy is at an all-time high, with infant mortality at a corresponding low point---considerably less than half what it was in 1970. Even the poorest Americans spend a smaller percentage of their income on food than middle-class Europeans. The CDC also notes that obesity isa growing concern, its rate having roughly doubled among children and increased to 35 percent for American adults---up from 25 percent. Other federal statistics consistently establish the prevalence of obesity among poorer Americans. Chronic malnutrition is statistically almost undetectable, and is correlated not so much with poverty but with alcoholism, drug addiction, mental illness, and child abuse.

The study that prompted the hunger summit---what Gore called ``the first-ever baseline study of the scope of hunger in America''---was a joint project of the departments of Agriculture and Health and Human Services. However, the authors of the study did not claim it measured hunger per se, since by their estimation, measurements of the ``physical sensation caused by a lack of food'' do not provide ``sensitive indicators'' of any problem as it is ``primarily experienced in the U.S. context.'' Instead, a sample of American households was asked 58 questions designed to measure ``characteristic affective states''---anxiety and uncertainty---involving food budgets and consumption. At any point in the past 12 months, did you have time to restock the refrigerator before running out of essential goods? Did you ever eat ``less than you felt you should,'' or a low-cost meal for purposes of economy? Bolstering reports of budget anxiety was the fact that the survey was administered from April 16 through April 22, right after tax time. Not surprisingly, the report concluded that there are 11.9 million ``food insecure'' households in the United States, comprising a whopping 34.7 million citizens living with ``resource-constrained hunger''---about one in seven Americans.

Gore once claimed that he and his wife Tipper were the real-life models for the Ivy League couple in Erich Segal's Love Story, an assertion the author felt obliged to correct.

(this one may jsut show stupidity not a lie)
While touring Monticello during an important photo opportunity in 1992 as vice president-elect, Gore asked the guide about all the white marble busts that lined the walls. ``Who are these people?'' he asked. Somewhat taken aback, the guide hesitated, then identified George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson...



To: Rarebird who wrote (60472)11/3/2000 3:36:45 PM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116764
 
<<All of this lying has got to stop, >>

Starting where?(cont)

During Tuesday's debate, Gore said he had received a letter as he left Sarasota, Florida from "the guy who served us lunch." "His name is Randy Ellis," Gore said. "He has a 15-year-old daughter named Kaylee, who's in Sarasota High School. Her science class was supposed to be for 24 students. She is the 36th student in that classroom, sent me a picture of her in the classroom. They can't squeeze another desk in for her, so she has to stand during class."

Gore used the illustration to drive home the point that he wants the federal government "to make improvement of our school the number one priority" so "Kaylee will have a desk and can sit down in a classroom where she can learn."

The Vice President just can't seem to figure out how to stop lying. Thankfully this particular lie occurred in a debate where the Vice President came off as a pompous ass. This lie is like the icing on the cake in what I relished as major Gore defeat. Here are the facts.

On WFLA 970 am radio in Tampa, Principal Daniel Kennedy said of Gore, "His facts are inaccurate. There was $100,000 worth of lab equipment waiting to be unpacked in the room, that's why the room was crowded. We have no students standing."

Kennedy called Gore's debate story, "misleading at best".

On Sunday March 12 the Gore campaign put out a press release entitled "McCain, Bradley Leaders Endorse Gore For President" it claims....

"Jackson, MS - March 12 - The Mississippi Campaign Director for Senator John McCain and the Mississippi State Chairman for former Senator Bill Bradley today endorsed Al Gore for President…Jim Bass, Mississippi State Director of McCain for President, and former Gov. Ray Mabus, Mississippi State Chairman of Bradley’s campaign, held a joint press conference here to announce their support of Gore."

The Tuesday, March 14th New York Times story, "Shifting From McCain to Gore," by David Firestone, notes...

"Vice President Al Gore's campaign, which has spent the last week trying to impress Senator John McCain's voters, announced yesterday that Mr. McCain's Mississippi coordinator, Jim Bass, had moved to the Gore camp. But at Mr. Bass's news conference in Jackson yesterday, none of the assembled political reporters had heard of Mr. Bass or knew that Mr. McCain had a Mississippi organization. Mr. McCain had not visited the state to campaign for today's primary, and had not opened a headquarters. Mr. Bass said he had run for a state Senate seat a dozen years ago -- as a Democrat."

Here's the bottom line!! There NEVER WAS a McCain Mississippi Campaign Director!

Gore: "I've always supported Roe v Wade. I have always supported a woman's right to choose. And let me say that if you entrust me with the presidency, I will guarantee that a woman's right to choose is protected." [Democratic Primary Debate, 1/26/00]

We'd like to thank the Bradley campaign for providing us the evidence to disprove Gore's claim. Here's the evidence...

--- Gore voted 19 times against federal and local funding of abortion. [CQ Vote #466, 8/2/77; CQ Vote #550, 9/27/77; CQ Vote #596, 10/12/77; CQ Vote #675, 11/3/77; CQ Vote #603, 10/13/77; CQ Vote #681, 11/3/77; CQ Vote #696, 11/3/77; CQ Vote #701, 11/3/77; CQ Vote #382, 6/13/78; CQ Vote #584, 8/9/78; CQ Vote #790, 10/12/78; CQ Vote #815, 10/14/78; CQ Vote #270, 6/27/79; CQ Vote #487, 10/9/79; CQ Vote #550, 10/30/79; CQ Vote #630, 12/6/79; CQ Vote #452, 9/3/80; CQ Vote #334, 9/22/83; CQ Vote #274, 10/24/85]

--- Vice President Al Gore was a consistent pro-life supporter as a member of Congress, so much that the National Right to Life Committee gave him a lifetime rating of 84 percent. [National Right to Life Committee, Ratings, 1977-85]

--- Gore voted to amend the Civil Rights Act of 1984, to define a "person" to include "unborn children from the moment of conception." [CQ Vote #242, 6/26/84]

On Sunday, December 19, 1999 on NBC's 'Meet the Press', Vice President Al Gore said, "I have never launched a personal negative attack and I never will."

In 1988 Gore Launched Numerous Negative Attack Ads On Dick Gephardt: During the 1988 campaign, Gore attacked Dick Gephardt for flip-flopping on a number of issues including abortion. Even though Gore himself flip-flopped on abortion he attacked Gephardt in a campaign commercial: "As a candidate, he'll [Gephardt] say or do anything to get elected." In another Gore ad he quotes Newsweek: "Newsweek says, 'Gephardt seems like a phony flip-flopper.'"

Gore--The Man Who Brought Us Willie Horton

Liberal Democrat Consultant Bob Beckel on Gore and Willie Horton: "The second thing is that people's rap on Al Gore is that he's not very tough on--in--as a campaigner. . . . That's dead wrong. He's going to be used to take on Bush and take on Quayle, to try to take--respond to what are clearly going to be an increase in Republican attacks. Let's remember about Al Gore, the first time [sic] to use Willie Horton against Dukakis in 1988 was not George Bush, it was Al Gore in New York. Gore's a tough campaigner, and that's going to be an important role for him." (CBS' "This Morning," 7/10/92)

Media Pit Bull Sam Donaldson on Gore and Willie Horton: "Well, something you said about fear, and Al Gore does use fear. Remember 1988, it was Al Gore when he was running in the primaries for president who found Willie Horton, and he used Willie Horton against Dukakis, well, long before Floyd Brown used Willie Horton against Dukakis in the fall." (ABC's "This Week," 11/28/99)

Moderator Tim Russert Cited 1996 Clinton/Gore Negative Attack Ads. "The Clinton/Gore campaign spent $40 million in soft money in 1996, 15 million of it on negative attack ads against Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich." (Tim Russert, NBC's "Meet the Press," 12/19/99)

Gore Has Attacked Bradley As a Quitter for Retiring from the Senate: "When Newt Gingrich took over Congress and tried to reinforce Reaganomics to try to force deep cuts in Medicare and Medicaid, I didn't walk away . . . . I decided to stay and fight." (Des Moines Register, 10/10/99)

Gore Attacked Bradley During a Discussion on Campaign Finance: "Now, all of us have made mistakes. Bill was cited by a New Jersey newspaper for what they said in their editorial were nauseating excesses." (Tim Russert, NBC's "Meet the Press," 12/19/99)

At a high school forum in New Hampshire on Tuesday, November 30th, Gore told students about his early days as a congressman from Tennessee - when a little girl wrote to him, saying that her father and grandfather were sick because of well water that "tasted funny."

Gore told the students, "I called for a congressional investigation and a hearing. I looked around the country for other sites like that. I found a little place in upstate New York called Love Canal. Had the first hearing on that issue," Gore said. "That was the one that started it all ... We made a huge difference and it was all because one high school student got involved."

Gore did chair hearings on Love Canal, but it happened in August 1978 - two months after Love Canal homes were evacuated and President Carter declared the neighborhood a disaster area. Lois Gibbs, who led the Love Canal Home Owners Association, has told the truth. According to Gibbs, Gore found out about the problem, only after the people of Love Canal and New York officials brought it to the federal government's attention.



To: Rarebird who wrote (60472)11/3/2000 4:00:43 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116764
 
<<All of this lying has got to stop, >>
Starting where?(cont)
October 3, 2000; First presidential debate, Boston, Mass.
CLAIM: “I have actually not questioned Governor Bush's experience.”
TRUTH: In an interview printed by the New York Times on March 12, Gore said: “You have to wonder whether [Bush] has the experience to be president. I mean, you really have to wonder. ... You have to wonder: Does Governor Bush have the experience to be president? ... Again you have to wonder: Does George Bush have the experience to be president?”
— by John J. Miller

Sept. 19, 2000
CLAIM: Addressing a Teamsters meeting, Gore spoke of lullabies from his youth and sang, "Look for the union label."
TRUTH: The song was written in 1975, when Gore was 27.

July 16, 2000; NBC'S Meet the Press
CLAIM: "I've accepted for two or three months now your invitation to debate on this program," said Gore on NBC's Meet the Press. "How are you going to persuade [Bush] to say yes, Tim?"
Tim Russert: "Well, maybe you're helping today."
Gore: "Well, do you think so? But what kind of approach — can you get Jack Welch involved?"
TRUTH: On the Today show on September 4, Gore refused to make good on this pledge.
Matt Lauer: "I do want to remind you that back in July, you had already agreed to the Meet the Press debate with Tim Russert."
Gore: "Sure."
Lauer: "Why now reject it?"
Gore: "I still agree to it. But first, let's do the commissioned debates."

CLAIM: "You know [Bush] has never put together a budget. The governor of Texas is by far the weakest chief executive position in America and does not have the responsibility of forming or presenting a budget. He's never done that."
TRUTH: Texas law defines the governor as "the chief budget officer of the state" and orders him to distribute his budget to every member of the legislature. And Bush, in fact, has formed and presented budgets as governor.

"Under Bush, Texas' recidivism rate has increased by 25 percent."
TRUTH: Nobody knows what has happened to the recidivism rate under Bush because those figures haven't been published, due to extensive lag times in reporting. The most recent numbers are from 1994, according to the Texas Criminal Justice Policy Council.

Describing the Clinton administration plan outlined in the 1999 State of the Union address to have the federal government invest some of the budget surplus in the stock market: "We didn't really propose it. We talked about the idea."
TRUTH: Page 37 of the Clinton administration budget submitted to Congress in February: "The President also proposes to invest half of the transferred amounts in corporate equities." From last year's budget: "The administration proposes tapping the power of private financial markets to increase the resources to pay for future Social Security benefits."

March 1, 2000; San Jose Mercury News
CLAIM: “It’s not fair to say, ‘Okay, after his sister died, he continued in the same relationship with the tobacco industry.’ I did not. I did not. I began to confront them forcefully. I don’t see the inconsistency there.”
TRUTH: The same month Gore’s sister died in 1984, he received a $1,000 speaking fee from U.S. Tobacco. The next year, he voted against cigarette and tobacco tax increases three times and favored a bill allowing major cigarette makers to purchase discounted tobacco. In the 1988 campaign, Gore bragged of his tobacco background: “I want you to know that with my own hands, all of my life, I put [tobacco] in the plant beds and transferred it. I’ve hoed it, I’ve dug in it, I’ve sprayed it, I’ve chopped it, I’ve shredded it, spiked it, put it in the barn, and stripped it and sold it” (Newsday, 2-26-88).

“My family had grown tobacco. It was never actually grown on my farm, but it was on my father’s farm.”
TRUTH: Gore had already admitted growing tobacco on his own farm: “On my farm, we stopped growing tobacco some time after Nancy died” (Cox News Service, 4-26-99). Also, Gore received federal subsidies for growing tobacco on his farm (Wall Street Journal, 8-10-95).

February 2, 2000; Good Morning America
CLAIM: “We won in every single demographic category” in the New Hampshire primary.
TRUTH: Bill Bradley carried male voters and voters aged 18-29, according to exit polls.

Democratic debate in Iowa
CLAIM: “Why did you [Bill Bradley] vote against the disaster relief for Chris Peterson when he and thousands of other farmers here in Iowa needed it after those ’93 floods?”
TRUTH: Bradley voted for $4.8 billion in flood aid and opposed an amendment, also opposed by the Clinton White House until the last minute, to add $900 million in disaster compensation.

November 30, 1999; New England Business Council, Manchester, N.H.
CLAIM: “I was a home builder after I came back from Viet-nam. . . . I know a good bit about how to make money that way. . . . To build this country is a great thing.”
TRUTH: A Gore family corporation, Tanglewood Home­ builders, built nine houses between 1969 and 1973 on property once owned by Gore’s father. “I believe he [Al Gore Jr.] came by a time or two, but not too often,” Jewell Dillehay, the contractor for the development, told the Orange County Register on February 20, 1988.

November 24, 1999; New York Times
CLAIM: “Unlike Senator Bradley, I was a co-sponsor of it.”
TRUTH: Gore and Russell Feingold never served together in the Senate.

CLAIM: “I carried an M-16. . . . I pulled my turn on the perimeter at night and walked through the elephant grass, and I was fired upon.” In 1988, Gore told the Washington Post: “I was shot at. . . . I spent most of my time in the field.”
TRUTH: Gore never faced direct enemy fire, although several times he may have arrived on the scene shortly after fighting was completed.

October 14, 1999; Gore ad
CLAIM: “I ask for your support, and your mandate if elected president, to send this treaty back to the Senate with your demand that they ratify it. I’ve worked on this for 20 years because, unless we get this one right, nothing else matters.”
TRUTH: Gore indeed “worked on” this matter for many years, but often in opposition to a test ban. During his presidential campaign in 1988, he criticized his Democratic primary opponents for “the very idea of having a complete ban on all flight-testing of missiles when we rely on deterrence for the survival of our civilization” (Washington Post, 2-22-88).

July 16, 1998; NAACP annual convention
CLAIM: “The Republicans know theirs is the wrong agenda for African Americans. They don’t even want to count you in the census!”
TRUTH: Most Republicans opposed the Clinton administration’s plan to conduct the census by statistically sampling the population rather than actually trying to count everybody.

February 16, 1992; C-SPAN’s Booknotes
CLAIM: Gore said his sister was “the very first volunteer for the Peace Corps.”
TRUTH: Nancy Gore Hunger was a paid employee at Peace Corps headquarters, 1961-64.

April 16, 1988; Democratic debate in New York
CLAIM: “I have written the law, along with one other principal author of the Superfund law, and amendments to the other major law in this area, which requires that companies improperly disposing of hazardous waste must bear the financial consequences of cleaning it up.”
TRUTH: Rep. Jim Florio, Democrat of New Jersey, wrote the first Superfund law in 1980. Gore was not a coauthor but merely one of 42 cosponsors in the House. Eight years before claiming authorship and praising the Superfund law, Gore criticized it for being “far too small to make a reasonable start on correcting this enormous environmental problem” (Congressional Record, 5-16-80).

1984 Senate ad
CLAIM: Narrator says Gore “wrote the bipartisan plan on arms control that U.S. negotiators will take to the Russians.”
TRUTH: Ken Adelman, director of U.S. Arms Control and Disarmament Agency: “He had nothing to do with what we proposed to the Soviets” (Boston Globe, 4-11-00).