To: Harvey Allen who wrote (4626 ) 11/3/2000 8:04:27 PM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 10042 Meanwhile the Dems are going about their business talking about social security. And talking is all they will ever do until the system eventually collapses under its own liabilities. I suggest you read this article I posted yesterday, if you haven't done so already:Message 14713730 Paying down the debt as it goes up? Martin L. Gross "Vice President Gore recently roared that the debt will be gone, finished, paid off, finito, by 2012, just a whiff of time in fiscal measurement. In September, from his Rose Garden perch, President Clinton boasted that hundreds of billions have been erased from the national debt just this year. This is supposedly the third year in a row we have been paying down the massive albatross, one that lies heavily over our financial heads to the tune of $84,000 for every family of four. Is the paydown all true? Of course not. This is merely another chapter in the newly minted mathematical hyperbole that has infected the body politic. As political lies fly like leaves in a windy autumn, there is, however, one stalwart outpost of truth in Washington. It is the Bureau of the Public Debt, a division of the Treasury Department. But why would they tell us victimized citizens the truth? Why such contrarian thought? The answer is that they, not the politicians, control the numbers that influence international finance, the stock market, and the central bankers here and abroad. if they lied, our currency would be damaged, our good faith and credit so much verbiage. Politicians can and do lie regularly, but somewhere, sometime, the buck must stop. It is at the Bureau of the Public Debt. What do they say? I can give you an inside view because I deal with them regularly. On the forth workday of the month, the BPD issues the latest true numbers on the national debt on a single sheet that any citizen can obtain by calling them. Or you can check it out on the Web at publicdebt.treas.gov . You'll be surprised by the truth."