To: jwright who wrote (34714 ) 11/7/2000 11:08:03 AM From: Frederick Smart Respond to of 42771 Jimmy.... >>The problem with Napster is that it's just a simple file transfer program. My system besides a publisher app, a locater app, has an additional file system driver to manage a virtual drive. All of your drives (i.e. hard, cd-rom, floppy, zip, network) are managed by a FSD driver for storage. This is exactly what I worked on at Novell is a network FSD to redirect network drives requests to a Novell server. This is what NETDRIVE does in redirecting file requests to the Internet for storage. So lets say I create an FSD to manage a virtual drive say N: Where the storage is located is not important (it could be local, removeable media, local network server, Internet server, ..etc) what is important is as an FSD I now manage ACCESS to that storage. Lets say my retrievable program not only retrieves the MP3 file I want to listen to but also retrieves a certificate from say a certificate server to associate with that file. Lets say my retrievable program only allows the MP3 file and certificate to be stored to the virtual drive. Lets say the certificate is used to encrypt the file for storage to the virtual drive. Lets say the certificate (I'm using the word loosely here) also has a timestamp or usage count associated with it such that sometime in the future a new certificate will have to be retrieved in order to continue accessing the MP3 file. Now the issue is once the MP3 file is stored to my virtual drive my job is to keep the file from being decrypt and copied to another drive managed by another FSD which I have no control over but at the same time I have to decrypt it when the user wants to play the MP3 file. At this point I was going to give more details but I don't want to give away the farm. Personal Directory or any other form of security will not solve this problem because the trust is still with the individual. To solve this problem you have to eliminate trust from the equation. Jimmy>> You bring up some interesting points. While in Florida yesterday we continued exploring some massively powerful ideas about personal security, trust, authentication, storage, etc. We think the world has it all bass ackwards. Bi-directional storage - point, click, target, retrieve, store, etc. - involving just TWO legs is ludicrous. The REAL internet is about UNLIMITED number of legs, directions, targets, etc. And if you get some mathematicians working on this you will begin to realize that in a completely OPEN, UNRESTRICTED, UNLIMITED medium you only need a fraction - 20% or less - of the actual data to restore the full, complete record of ANYTHING you are trying to put back together. Imagine this: storing 10,000+ bits/bites of data to 1,000,000 separate virtual servers. And only YOU, ME - THE INDIVIDUAL - has the final, end POWER/CONTROL/RIGHT to put all these pieces back together again. Blow away all these bi-directional mindsets. These are severely limiting. Forget about "file-sharing" or "file transferring!!" Napster is just the tip of a massive, massive, open-ended iceberg that knows no limits or bounds. These "they gotta come to us" power/control paradigms will be arbitraged by some of these new, emerging technologies that more fully embrace the true, unlimited nature of the Internet. The REAL internet begins with a massive, complete and totally RADICAL change in perception about the world - ie. the world begins and ends with INDIVIDUALS. Nothing more. Nothing less. Everything else is fluff, spins, dodge and weave Old School Gore & Bushleague power/control oriented/fed/locked/signed/sealed/delivered politics. Gore and Bush are both "bought and paid for" politicians. The REAL game is elsewhere. All you have to do is FOLLOW THE MONEY. Individuals have become tools to power/control business paradigms that are fueled by MONEY. I firmly believe we are at the stage in world history were mankind is going to break-through all this BS and begin to see the world in a radically different light. From the perspective of forgivness, light and love. But folks like me and others will be tarred and feathered for trying to share these energies, ideas and truths. Invert the storage model from a closed control model into a wide open service model in which the ONLY controls that matter get grounded in personal TRUST not political/collective power or money. If I want to store my book-in-progress on 1,000,000 virtual servers in bits and pieces and then got back and work on bits and pieces of it I should be able to reassemble the millions and billions of bits and pieces from my personal trust control paradigm. NOT once created for me by Novell, Oracle or Microsoft. If some of Novell's infrastructure can help us get to this open-ended, unrestricted, unlimted world of FREEDOM faster then GREAT!!! GOvell!! Peace. GO!!