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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Bill who wrote (64449)11/8/2000 4:54:29 PM
From: Srexley  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Not according to Wexler. He's scary, imo.



To: Bill who wrote (64449)11/8/2000 4:57:01 PM
From: Selectric II  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Of course, but that fact isn't useful toward accomplishing their agenda.



To: Bill who wrote (64449)11/8/2000 5:04:48 PM
From: Rambi  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
Well I think it would be unlikely after seeing the ballot on TV. GW was the first name and the first oval.
But I also didn't think the Gore oval was that unclear- the arrows were right there pointing to the right oval. My guess is that these were people who knew they were voting a straight Dem. ticket and just didn't bother to look farther than that first category. It was careless, but did the ballot design really contribute significantly to the problem, and if so, then what?



To: Bill who wrote (64449)11/8/2000 5:28:07 PM
From: Ish  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
<<There is also no reason to suspect that dem votes were the only ones erroneously cast for Buchanan. >>

It looked like the people who wanted to vote for the Socialist candidate could have mistakenly voted for Gore. Or not.



To: Bill who wrote (64449)11/8/2000 5:43:00 PM
From: KyrosL  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
<Couldn't some who intended to vote for Bush make the same claim? >

It would be much much less likely -- of course anything
is possible. Here is how the ballot in Palm Beach county
was laid out:

Bush ----> O
O <-------- Buchanan
Gore ----> O
.
. .
. .

It is clear that Bush is the first hole in the ballot. But
what about Gore? Since he is the second down on the left
column, many people (seems nearly 2000) thought they ought
to punch the second hole down. This was the first and only
ballot among Florida counties with two columns of names,
both of which had their holes lined up in the same vertical
line.

The point of all this is that a lot of people got out of
the voting booth, thought about it, asked around, realized
their mistake and complained way before the
importance of Florida was evident.

I am not saying that the PB ballot was a Republican
conspiracy. Just very poor human factors design that may
very well end up throwing the election to the person the
majority of the people of Florida did not intend to elect
president.

This as well as the fact that Gore got more popular votes
than Bush creates a very clear moral legitimacy dilemma for
a future president Bush. Those who love to preach about
morality, and publicly condemn people who are legally right
but morally wrong, ought to think hard about this.

Kyros