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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Oral Roberts who wrote (1207)11/8/2000 8:05:03 PM
From: Carolyn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
I do think Bush will carry Florida.
As for the popular vote vs the Electoral College vote, one must look to the creators of the Constitution. They had similar concerns, albeit different circumstances. Should the concentrated urban population govern the country? Should not the more under populated areas which have a far greater proportion of the land have a say? The former would always dominat3 the latter. Is this fair or conscionable?

I think there is great danger in abolishing the Electoral College.



To: Oral Roberts who wrote (1207)11/8/2000 8:05:26 PM
From: Venditâ„¢  Respond to of 6710
 
The Noncitizen Vote

One way the Clinton administration could have stolen some votes is by leaking federal Immigration and Naturalization Service records to the Democratic Party's get-out-the-vote effort.
WorldNetDaily.com reports that an 18-year-old noncitizen got a letter in the mail that said: "Remember: Your Vote is Your Voice. Su Voz, Es Su Voto. Make your voice heard on Election Day. Sincerely, President Bill Clinton." Below that on the letter is a postscript: "Here is your personal Voter Identification Card. Sign your name, then detach your card. Bring your card with you to your polling place on Election Day. It will help your voting go more smoothly."

worldnetdaily.com



To: Oral Roberts who wrote (1207)11/8/2000 8:07:33 PM
From: sandintoes  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Once Wisconsin is recounted, and all of the votes are in in Fla. Gore may not lead the popular vote.



To: Oral Roberts who wrote (1207)11/8/2000 8:30:53 PM
From: Bill Fischofer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Re: Majorities

Nobody received a majority (the proverbial 50% plus 1) of the popular vote in this election. Even if by some miracle Gore managed to reverse FL and win the electoral vote he would still be a minority president in terms of the popular vote.

The moral dilemma of the electoral system (which did not arise in this election) is that in a two-person race it is possible for one candidate to poll an absolute majority of the popular vote and still lose the electoral vote. With third-party candidates the result we have in this election in which neither of the top two candidates poll a majority of the votes cast would under a direct election system typically result in a runoff election being held between the two leaders.

However, the essence of the rule of law requires that you don't change the rules to suit the circumstance after the fact. Under our present electoral system the criteria for a clean win is very clear and I expect both candidates will abide by the constitutional election rules regardless of what talking heads on the networks may speculate about to fill time while waiting for the recount to be completed. A debate about changing the electoral system via a constitutional amendment would be an appropriate matter to be brought up in the next Congress but it will have no impact on the current election.



To: Oral Roberts who wrote (1207)11/9/2000 12:35:43 AM
From: Rollcast...  Respond to of 6710
 
Would Gore have pulled off the popular vote if the networks' had not projected Bush's loss of Florida so early?

I dont think he would have. I have spoken to at least 3 people in Califoria (Gore/Clinton haters not necessarily Bush supporters) who did not vote assuming the networks were correct that Gore for prez was a foregone conclusion after "he won" FL and PA.... I know all 3 would have hussled, waited in line, done whatever it took to vote Bush if they had the impression the electoral vote was close.

How many thousands more didn't vote due to this deception?

Anyone else notice the recants on FL from the networks came in around 10 pm est... happened to be when the latest polls were closing...Interesting coincidence.

Bush would have had the popular vote by a wide margin if this deception hadn't taken place.

Well, at least the Lincoln bedroom may be available for 4 more years... that is if the Chinese haven't booked it solid already.