To: Ilaine who wrote (86932 ) 11/8/2000 11:29:04 PM From: E Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807 Let me explain to you yet again the relevance of Palestinian parents' ability (or the claimed lack of it) to control the activities of their male children. The chosen mode of protest to Israeli power is stone-throwing admixed with molotov cocktail-hurling and live gunfire. This hybrid form of protest is going to get children killed and injured in great numbers, as we have seen, and will impede the process of deliberative negotiation. (I understand that the Palestinians believe they will derive PR advantage in eventual negotiations from the world's reaction to more and more child deaths.) (There seems to be developing some recognition on the part of the leaders that this must cease. I cynically suspect it is because the PR is getting less effective as the adult-led nature of the child participation becomes less deniable.) There it is. I can't explain it any more simply than that. Cultural attributes, as I am getting tired of saying, are irrelevant except where they are relevant. An example of "relevant" would be a demonstrated ability to control one child, even by going so far as to threaten to kill the child to maintain that control, while claiming at the same time a complete lack of ability to control a second child. It is "relevant," once again, because it appears to give the lie to the claim of no adult control. An example of "irrelevant" is wig-wearing. You do not have normal standards or conduct in argument. As you state, you feel no obligation to respond to points, even if they are made in reply to your own. This is apparently because doing so makes you feel "robotic." This is unusual in argument, and makes engaging in it with you a rather bizarre experience.