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To: KyrosL who wrote (19174)	11/8/2000 11:43:17 PM
From: Jon Koplik	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29987

Wouldn't you think that people would know they are not supposed to turn in a ballot with more than one candidate selected in a particular race ? DUH ... Jon.

To: KyrosL who wrote (19174)	11/9/2000 4:59:38 AM
From: FaultLine	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29987

Apparently large numbers of people punched first the Buchanan hole, realized their mistake, and then punched Gore's hole, resulting in a disqualified ballot. I don't think people would knowingly submit a ballot with an error on it. More likely they actually thought they were supposed to punch out both holes to the right - one for Gore and the other for Lieberman or some such logic. The ballot: cnews.tribune.com Although not expressly stated, I suggest that of the 19,000 ballots with multiple hole punches for President, the vast majority of the people submitting these mismarked ballots thought they were voting for the Gore ticket. At the same time, each person thought everything was A-OK. If a large number (just more than a few dozen) of similarly and oddly spoiled ballots exists, this would constitute strong evidence that the average person was subtly misdirected into thinking that they had correctly marked their choice. This would be a conclusion impossible to refute in the face of thousands of such spoiled ballots. --FL

To: KyrosL who wrote (19174)	11/9/2000 5:31:57 AM
From: John Stichnoth	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 29987

Question on the electoral college: Do Florida electors legally have to vote according to the results as certified by the Commissioner of Elections? Some states require the electors to vote according the the popular vote. In other states, the electors follow the popular choice by custom, but have no legal requirement to do so. Into which camp does Florida fall? Seems that, given the controversy over the 19,000 "duplicate vote" ballots and the 3,400 Buchanan votes in PB County, there is real room for Gore backers to persuade the electors to vote according to how the majority apparently meant to vote, regardless of the certification. Another question: Which holes were punched in the 19,000 invalidated ballots? How often were holes 1 and 2 punched, and how often were 2 and 3 punched, etc.? My sense is that nothing close to 19,000 votes would go to Gore if they were allowed.