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To: Think4Yourself who wrote (78274)	11/9/2000 10:22:10 AM
From: excardog	Respond to of 95453

I'm aware some of you folks are high on TLM but IMO CED is cheaper. Not a recommendation just an opinion. If our dollar starts to sink watch the Canadian plays. Plus the Ranger purchase has yet to sink in. Full report:http://www.siliconinvestor.com/msg_reply.gsp?replytoid=14763351 Thursday November 9, 6:43 am Eastern Time Press Release Canadian Natural's Growth Continues CALGARY, Alberta--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Nov. 9, 2000--Canadian Natural (NYSE:CED - news; TSE:CNQ. - news) MESSAGE TO SHAREHOLDERS Canadian Natural Resources Limited (``Canadian Natural'') continued to achieve record financial and operating results for the third quarter and nine months ended September 30, 2000. These results reflect higher levels of production and realized netbacks together with the operations of Ranger Oil Limited (``Ranger'') which was acquired in the third quarter of the year. The Company's capital expenditures, excluding the acquisition cost of Ranger, remain as budgeted and with the higher levels of cash flow a total of $366 million of debt payments were completed in the third quarter. Canadian Natural's cash flow from operations for the third quarter of the year increased 150% from the prior year's third quarter to a total of $587 million ($4.97 per share). The ability of Canadian Natural to convert its cash flow into earnings results in net earnings for the quarter of $241 million ($2.04 per share), a 242% increase over the comparable year. For the nine months ended September 30, 2000, Canadian Natural achieved cash flow of $1,331 million ($11.58 per share) and net earnings of $559 million ($4.86 per share). These amounts represent increases of 189% and 436% respectively over the comparable period in the prior year.

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (78274)	11/9/2000 10:31:25 AM
From: patim	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 95453

John...sorry to disagree but they were very confusing. Over 18,000 people double punched it. Probably 10 times that many didn't catch the mistake. Gore was listed second, but to vote for him, you would have to punch the third hole. The networks were absolutely right in declaring Gore the winner.....a winner with possibly close to a quarter million more votes than Bush. If that is so..and evidence seems to be reasonably strong...how can the wishes of the people be overruled???

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (78274)	11/9/2000 10:31:27 AM
From: The Ox	Respond to of 95453

JQP, you are absolutely 100% correct. The ballot issue is very important and should be resolved before the next election. These are local government issues, period. They should be addressed for future elections but there is no legal justification to change the outcome of this vote. We should keep in mind that we are not talking fraud or deception which would be grounds for a re-vote. We are discussing the fact that some voters might have been confused about the voting process. Like you said, throw out the bogus ballots and recount the rest. It's not like someone was trying to vote and was refused entry. It's not like any confused voter couldn't have asked an election official to assist them with their ballot! If there are 'other' irregularities about the FL vote, deal with them on a one by one basis, just like every other state in the country did. Let the chips fall where they may and let's move on.

To: Think4Yourself who wrote (78274)	11/9/2000 10:35:32 AM
From: Tommaso	Respond to of 95453

OT-- That's because the TV announcer explained the ballot to you and you sat there at leisure and figured it out. That's different from waiting in line and then being left alone in a voting booth with a stylus and a punch card. Also, to have difficulty with failing sight, as some of these voters did, is not the same thing as to have poor political judgment. If 36,000 people got disqualified for punching it twice, there was something wrong with it. And the strangely large total of votes for Buchanan also suggests this.