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To: Dr. Id who wrote (7874)11/9/2000 10:43:32 AM
From: Mike Buckley  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 22706
 
Id,

19000 ballots were thrown out! In one county! If you can show that that happens routinely in elections, I'll agree that its the voters fault.

The corollary to that is that if it's not routine in other areas it's not the voters' fault. In other words, voters have no responsibility to know how to cast a vote if the required method isn't routine. In my mind, your thinking is a perfect example of the tendency to place all respsonsibility for personal mistakes on others.

I also think that it's interesting that the controversial state re: improprieties happens to be the state where doubya's brother is the governor.

If any state or the District of Columbia (the latter being a place where people live and pay taxes but don't get to to vote for representation in Congress) were put under the microscope to the degree that Florida has or for the reason Florida has, there's no question in my mind that there would be similar situations brought to light to some degree. One news report stated that the person who changed the ballot to the current one in Palm Beach is a Democrat, so come to the conclusions you want to about Jeb Bush's association with the so-called fiasco.

For the record, I voted for Gore and I have a real problem with people shunning responsibility for people having voted twice and placing all the responsibility on the design of the ballot.

--Mike Buckley



To: Dr. Id who wrote (7874)11/9/2000 11:05:54 PM
From: tekboy  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 22706
 
19000 ballots were thrown out! In one county! If you can show that that happens routinely in elections, I'll agree that its the voters fault.

apparently ~15,000 ballots were thrown out for doublecounting in the same county in the 1996 election. Of course, even the extra few thousand this time would have been enough to tip the total to Gore...

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