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To: PartyTime who wrote (66654)	11/9/2000 4:52:47 PM
From: zx	Respond to of 769667

why would florida use an illegal ballot? Mistake?

To: PartyTime who wrote (66654)	11/9/2000 5:00:58 PM
From: carranza2	Respond to of 769667

Other than what you've read online, what is the source of your information? I'm betting you have no sources, i.e., links to statutes, treatises, etc. If the ballot is illegal, can you tell us what the legal remedy is? Are the ballots necessarily invalid? Is a re-vote specified as a remedy under Florida law? Is the fact that the parties appproved the form perhaps preclude a challenge? Your bald and unsupported assertion that the ballot is invalid doesn't help much unless you can tell us why you believe that to be the case and make a few intelligent comments concerning the ramifications of the illegality. Simply adds to the incredibly huge amount of the useless and fragmentary information which clutters up cyberspace.

To: PartyTime who wrote (66654)	11/9/2000 5:01:18 PM
From: alan w	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

To: PartyTime who wrote (66422) From: alan w Thursday, Nov 9, 2000 3:48 PM ET Reply # of 66678 Do you even read what's posted to you? To: PartyTime who wrote (66390) From: bobp Thursday, Nov 9, 2000 3:36 PM ET Respond to Post # 66410 of 66442 Claim:The ballot was illegal because Sec. 101.51 of the Florida Statutes provides that the box for selecting a candidate should appear to the right of a candidate's name. Since the square for punching the computer ballot for Buchanan appeared to the left of his name (he appeared on the right side of the so-called "butterfly" page), the ballot does not comply with Florida law and some legal redress should be given. Fact: Sec. 101.151 does not apply to the Palm Beach County procedures. Sec. 101.151 provides in pertinent part: "101.151 Specifications for general election ballot-- In counties in which voting machines are not used, and in other counties for use as absentee ballots not designed for tabulation by an electronic or electromechanical voting system, the general election ballot shall conform to the following specifications:......." "Electronic Voting Systems Act". This Act was first adopted in 1973 and has been amended frequently since then. 101.5609 Ballot requirements.-- (1) When an electronic or electromechanical voting system utilizes a ballot card or paper ballot which is distributed to electors, the ballot shall meet the following requirements: Hey Partytime, what part of the bold don't you understand? Section 6 (6) “Voting squares may be placed in front of or in back of the names of candidates and statements of questions and shall be of such size as is compatible with the type of system used...” View Replies (1) \| View Next 10 Messages \| Respond \| Previous \| Nex

To: PartyTime who wrote (66654)	11/9/2000 5:15:08 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Respond to of 769667

PT, This is exactly what I was referring to.... Thursday November 9, 2000; 4:20 PM ET Bush Ahead in Florida with Only Republican Counties Left to Count George Bush retains only a slim lead in the Florida recount vote, but is still likely to win because he carried all the counties not yet tallied, a Florida congressman said Thursday afternoon. With the recount complete in 63 of the state's 67 counties, Bush lead Gore by 350 to 400 votes, Florida Rep. Joe Scarborough told WABC radio's Sean Hannity. Scarborough reported that the four remaining counties are Hardy, Manatee, Polk and Seminole. Bush's margin of victory in Hardy was 23 percent, 8 percent in Manatee, 9 percent in Polk and 12 percent for Seminole. Scarborough also told Hannity that at least one voter in the Florida panhandle, a Republican stronghold, is planning to file a lawsuit alleging that the Republican vote there was illegally supressed. "He may file a lawsuit to get the election results overturned if Bush does not win," Scarborough said, "because he and, from what we're hearing, up to ten thousand voters in Northwest Florida walked away from the ballot box when ABC, NBC, CBS called Florida for Gore before our voting booths closed." Unlike the rest of the state, the panhandle region is in the Central Time zone. Voting booths there remained open for an hour after the state was called for Gore. "Two poll workers said that lines started plummeting (when the state was called for Gore)and they're talking about filing a lawsuit," the Florida congressman added.