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To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (59347)	11/10/2000 12:36:16 PM
From: Doppler	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 63513

OK maybe my last post wasn't my last one on the issue. The ballot WAS NOT used in the last election in PB, or for President. It was used for FL Senator and because of the confusion FL passed a law banning it's further use(which raises the Q of how it got approved). Now - having said that. I agree that it is all water under the bridge and should probably be dropped. People however that can't see the other sides displeasure are closed minded imo.

To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (59347)	11/10/2000 12:43:08 PM
From: The Phoenix	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 63513

bp, I'm sorry... but that is CRAP! And yes, I'm starting to get irritated. That is simply a cop out. If after all these attempts to do the right thing (which there is no doubt in my mind that everyone was trying to do) we find that it still caused issues, then it should be fixed... bottom line. Suggesting that "well you didn't say anything until now..." is the answer is a cop out... especially if we believe that the will of the people is being usurped. We all know that IF the ballots didn't cause issues that those 19,000 votes would have been counted and we also know (as does the Bush campaign) that if they were counted he would lose. So, in 1996 the ballots were a rounding error - this year they will decide who is president. That all said nothing can be done now.. it 's over... it useless to discuss. BUT, anyone that suggests for a minute that it's OK to throw away 19,000 ballots - FOR ANY REASON - I DON'T CARE WHAT IT IS... HAS BEEN SMOKING TOO MUCH CRACK! And it's a travesty that it happened in 1996.. and it's even a bigger travesty of justice that it wasn't fixed and will cost Gore the election... because bottom line... it appears that IF ALL the votes counted, that Gore would have won the election. And to suggest that the Demo's had a chance to fix the ballot beforehand and didn't is an excuse is a joke. I can't tell you how many times things are tested and fail. Could it be that the Demo's didn't forsee the issue? Does that make it OK to throw away 19,000 votes? I don't think so. In the end it's not the voters that are deciding the election but the state of Florida who can't seem to build a ballot that the old people can figure out. So, tally up the votes.. throw some away and then lets decide who is president based upon the remaining votes. ENOUGH. I don't want to talk about this anymore. We clearly have a difference of opinion..

To: MulhollandDrive who wrote (59347)	11/10/2000 12:46:28 PM
From: Atin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 63513

But this isn't really about sides -- it doesn't matter how incompetent the sides approving the ballots were. The whole point of the exercise is to figure out the will of the people and use that to decide the electoral college votes. So right now the question is whether the will of the people was accurately represented so that the electoral college votes could get to the correct candidate. If a majority of those 19,000 votes really were meant for Gore, that would plain suck if the incompetence of the election officials is what gets a guy who is not the popular choice or the electoral choice in there. But, I think Gore should let Bush go in -- it would end up being a one term Presidency anyway (with a divided house and senate, not much is going to happen) and Gore would be the leading democratic candidate next time as well as one hell of a shadow president ("I told you so! Elect me next time and I'll fix it!" :) ) since he won the popular vote this time most probably and so this isn't like Michael Dukakis or Walter Mondale. The guy won most probably except for some technical hitches . . . and he'd sound more statesmanlike. And Americans like a good sport. -Atin