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To: bigsablepoint who wrote (68575)	11/10/2000 12:53:40 PM
From: Timothy W. Johnson	Respond to of 769670

<The analogy of yards gained to incorrectly punched ballots in Palm Beach is so weak it is not even worthy of discussion. Analogies can be made to simplify complex subjects, but in this simplification certain fallacies can be created. In you analogy, a ref is like a judge and rules of football are like laws. refs are not like judges because they make split second calls based on the action that happens before their eyes. Judges make ruling based on pages of pleadings, days of testimony and personal observations and must rely on these other sources to provide the information on which they make decisions. A judge's decision can be appealed to at least 3 courts and many are. A refs decision is final. The rules of football are clear and concise. The rule of law is confusing and complex. Sports are relatively unimportant activities conducted solely for entertainment. Politics are the very foundation of society. Where are the similarities? > bigablepoint - Agreed, but, the judiciary has no place in a free election unless there is voter fraud. Democrats designed the ballot. Democrats and Republicans approved the ballot. Where is the fraud?

To: bigsablepoint who wrote (68575)	11/10/2000 1:02:04 PM
From: lisalisalisa	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

I now think we are arguing different points. I agree the analogy you offered is a weak one. However I was not trying to argue for the analogy you offered which was yards gained to incorrect holes being punched. I was making the argument that yards gained could be compared with popular vote, since in this case neither one could determine the winner on a national scale. A football team can out gain their opponent and feel they should deserve to win the game, but of course they could lose because the object is to score the most points, not gain the most yards. A presidential candidate can win the nations popular vote and lose the election because of the electoral college. This was the analogy I was saying was a good one, not the one you offered, which I agree is a bad analogy.