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To: Rarebird who wrote (60854)11/11/2000 2:03:44 PM
From: long-gone  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116756
 
<<Of course they don't. But don't you think that when an election is this close and the other party is ahead in the popular vote, perfection should be strived for to get as accurate a vote count as possible in Florida? >>

For all your talk about truth & fairness, I see no discussion about the lack of fairness in the elections in NM, IL, CA, OR, or even other parts of FL!

I have no interest in "fairness" only accuracy. A count is a count is a count. Do you hold the same interest in accuracy everywhere or only in those places questioning existing accuracy helps your cause?



To: Rarebird who wrote (60854)11/11/2000 2:13:52 PM
From: Little Joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116756
 
" What I do see is the Bush campaign desperately trying to avoid the pursuit of Truth by getting a court injunction to prevent a vote recount by hand in Palm Beach county"

Of course, we all understand that if the shoe were on the other foot, the Gore campaign as the true seekers of truth would not be objecting to this recount.

And of course the Easter Bunny is real.

And so is Santa Claus.

Live long and prosper,

Little joe



To: Rarebird who wrote (60854)11/11/2000 2:35:26 PM
From: long-gone  Respond to of 116756
 
sun-sentinel.com.

By DAVID FLESHLER and MITCH LIPKA Staff WriterS
Web-posted: 7:29 p.m. Aug. 31, 1998

The state's attempt to crack down on election fraud may have caused a new problem: election confusion.

In Broward County today, voters will be asked for photo identification before being allowed to cast a ballot. For the first time, their voter cards alone won't be sufficient. If they don't have photo ID, they'll have to sign an affidavit attesting to their identity.

Palm Beach and Miami-Dade County voters are not supposed to go through that -- although it's possible they will, as confused poll workers try to make sense of two sets of instructions.

Adding to the confusion, the Palm Beach County Elections web site still reminds voters to bring photo identification, even though the elections supervisor now says it won't be required.

The different procedures come in the wake of the federal government's refusal to clear the state's tough new voter fraud law. Passed after rampant voting fraud marred last year's election for mayor of Miami, the law toughened requirements for absentee ballots and required voters to provide photo identification.

The law was suspended after the federal government refused to approve it, citing possible conflicts with the Voting Rights Act. And now Florida's county elections supervisors are worried about confusion among their thousands of poll workers.

In Broward County, 3,700 poll workers were trained in early August to follow the new election law, which requires all voters to present photo identification or sign an affidavit testifying to their identity.

After they were trained, the state suspended the law and asked all county elections offices to follow the old law, which does not require a photo ID.

But Broward Elections Supervisor Jane Carroll was worried about confusing her poll workers with contradictory information just before the primary. After checking with her lawyers, she decided to stick to the new law and require photo identification.

Her decision goes against the wishes of the state Elections Division, which would prefer that all counties follow the old law to keep election procedures consistent.
"We've advised them not to enforce the photo ID," said Bucky Mitchell, assistant general counsel for the state Elections Division. "We're trying to make the process consistent across the state -- trying to reduce the inevitable confusion."

But he acknowledged that Carroll is within her rights and said the state will not challenge her decision.
In Palm Beach and Miami-Dade counties, the elections supervisors plan to follow the state's wishes and dispense with the photo identification requirement. They are bracing for a lot of questions from poll workers today.

"It was a tough call," said David Leahy, Miami-Dade's elections supervisor. "All the training was done telling our people to require it. There might be some confusion. That's a distinct possibility."

In Palm Beach County, about one-third of the county's 3,500 poll workers were trained before the new law was suspended. Elections Supervisor Theresa LePore agreed to follow the old law and is now trying to inform poll workers.

Precinct clerks, who are in charge of the polling places, have been told to spread the word. Notices have been places in supply bags.
"It posed a very big problem all the way around, not only in education of the poll workers but the office staff and the printed material," LePore said.
The key concern is that eligible voters aren't turned away.

Broward's poll workers have been told to not turn anyone away without checking with the main elections office.
In Palm Beach County, LePore said voters' signatures will be checked against the precinct logs.

Broward has already had a dry run. During a special City Commission election in Hollywood, poll workers required photo identification for the first time. Just 6 percent of voters failed to produce the identification, Carroll said, and all of those signed an affidavit allowing them to vote.