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Politics : Al Gore vs George Bush: the moderate's perspective -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Lane3 who wrote (5518)	11/11/2000 12:58:26 PM
From: Slugger	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10042

DEMOCRATS URGE GORE TO QUIT LEGAL WRANGLING "Senator John B. Breaux, a Louisiana Democrat, questioned the Gore campaign's wisdom in challenging the Palm Beach result. The right thing, Mr. Breaux said, 'is to count the votes and respect the decision,' without lengthy litigation. And Senator Robert G. Torricelli, Democrat of New Jersey, warned against getting mired in the courts... "'I want Al Gore to win the election,' Mr. Torricelli told reporters, 'but more than that, I want somebody to win this election. There is going to have to be a very compelling case for anybody to take this into a court of law.'" - The New York Times' R. W. Apple, Jr., 11/10/00 _________________________________________________________________ NEW YORK TIMES, WASHINGTON POST, OTHERS: REVOTE OR COURT REMEDY POLITICALLY UNSOUND AND LEGALLY QUESTIONABLE "The problem is that potential remedies, such as a new election in Palm Beach County, seem politically unsound and legally questionable. The sad reality is that ballot disputes and imperfections are a feature of every election. It will poison the political atmosphere if presidential elections, in particular, come to be seen as merely a starting point for litigation." - New York Times, Editorial, 11/10/00 nytimes.com "We say yes to counting a little more, but the legal action about which Mr. Daley spoke elliptically should be approached with enormous caution and restraint. Absent more than is currently known, our sense is that either a lawsuit or a repeat vote would raise at least as many questions as it would likely resolve; the courts in the end can't legitimize the results." - Washington Post, Editorial, 11/10/00 washingtonpost.com "Some folks are even calling for a rerun of the Florida election. It is important to decide this election by the rules that 100 million Americans understood -- or should have understood -- when they entered the voting booth Tuesday. This is not just about fair play for Al Gore and George W. Bush. It is about defending a system that regards voting-day verdicts as the final word, a concept that distinguishes this nation from most others in the world." - San Francisco Chronicle, Editorial, 11/9/00 "'You know, I don't think the ballot was a problem, Bill and I'll tell you why-is that there's one section I don't know if people are really looking at, which relates to electronic or electromechanical voting. And in that particular case, what the law says down here, it says 'Voting squares may be placed in front of or in back of the names of candidates and statements.'" - CNN's "Crossfire," Greta Van Susteren, 11/09/00 "If you start saying the ballot should be thrown out because of confusion, I think that cases like that could be brought all over the country." - CNN's Larry King Live, Bill Schneider, 11/8/00

To: Lane3 who wrote (5518)	11/11/2000 1:42:25 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10042

perhaps you can answer a question I have about your boy, Dubya. I was a McCain man Karen... And he probably would have been far more hawkish in other ways than Bush, namely with defense spending. Effectively, what I perceive is that Clinton has tried to coerce this nation in a direction that many don't wish it to take. Certainly, not at this rapid a rate. The debate over abortion is probably one of the most controversial of these. But even Bush says that he won't seek to overturn Roe v. Wade. Rather Bush's approach is NOT TO CHANGE THE LAW, BUT TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S HEARTS. We cannot legislate morality... However, we can seek to curb the excesses so that they don't disrupt the fabric of our society, or our families. That's how I see the difference between reasonable tolerance of liberal "values" and trying to dictate morality. I'm certainly no fan of the so-called "moral majority". But then again, I can rationally see why they are so offended by what they perceive as the "immoral minority" foists their "values" on vital public institutions. For example, do you wish to have your children exposed to the intimate details of an alternative sexual lifestyle, especially at a time when they are still attempting to come to grips with the fact that they have hormones? Well, in Boston the Massachusetts Dept of Education engaged in just such a seminar, where children as young as 12 years of age were taught about "fisting"... Read the following link below: massnews.com Now, I have to ask folks... what kind of self-respecting person would permit this kind of conversation around young impressionable children? They way I kind of look at the world, it is tough enough to raise a child with good moral, or religious values, and have them retain them in the face of a immoral world, I figure we shouldn't need to train them when they're young. In sum, it is far more important to instill good values at an early age, even if they get confused or forgotten later on in life. There is just no reason to screw kid's lives up even worse at such a young age. A vote for Bush was more than likely a vote for some basic common sense when it comes to social values. After all, it is what this nation was built upon and before we act too quickly to discard them, or permit them to be subverted, maybe we'd better think real hard. The very fact that the Liberal bastion of Massachusetts permitted such a discussion to go on is a clear sign of what they would like us to teach in EVERY SCHOOL.. Besides, Bush understands the crux of education, namely accountability and assuring that children are armed with the basics, reading, writing, and arithmetic, to include a return to phonics. Regards, Ron