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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Ish who wrote (70566)	11/11/2000 7:22:32 PM
From: jhild	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

Thickness of the stylus, alignment of the card, all of these things can be dimensionally out of tolerance. Chads piling up underneath for instance could alter what force is required to punch. Factor that in with elderly voters and sure there is plenty of opportunity to get less than a 100% chad separation. We have the same punch ballots in Illinois. Takes all of 3 ounces to punch the ballot. If after this process Bush is still leading or even widened his lead, think what stronger footing Bush will be on. Why does he deny himself the opportunity to actually build consensus by lunging so prematurely at the brass ring?

To: Ish who wrote (70566)	11/11/2000 7:29:06 PM
From: Mr. Palau	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

<<We have the same punch ballots in Illinois. Takes all of 3 ounces to punch the ballot.>> And the Illinois Supreme Court has approved examining such ballots by hand to determine the voter intent. This is the summary of one such case: "After primary election was held and State Board of Elections certified one candidate as Republican nominee for representative in General Assembly for particular district, losing candidate filed petition of election contest. The Circuit Court, Cook County, ordered recount and then determined which category of ballots were to be considered in recount, directed lottery to determine nominee after candidates were determined to be tied, and declared originally- announced winning candidate to be winner of primary election based on result of coin flip. Losing candidate appealed and winning candidate cross-appealed. The Supreme Court, Ward, J., held that partially punctured ballots from which paper chads indicating vote were not completely dislodged were subject to visual inspection and manual counting to extent that voters' intent could be determined with reasonable certainty."