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To: Jon Cave who wrote (78671)	11/11/2000 11:53:12 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

<<I bet Bush could pick up some votes in this district if they hand count them>> That was very possible, however, Bush waived the right to a handcount in all counties in Florida by not filing a request by midnight Friday (within 72 hours of the day of the election).

To: Jon Cave who wrote (78671)	11/12/2000 12:58:23 AM
From: upanddown	Respond to of 95453

Jon I saw different figures for Florida absentee ballots in 1996. The L.A. Times today said that about 30,000 ballots were requested in 1996 but only 2,300 were returned. I think it is ridiculous that ballots are allowed to come in for ten days afterward as long as they are postmarked by election day. It is almost as if they are saying that those ballots couldn't possibly make a difference. CA is totally different. I voted absentee and postmarks are irrelevant. They recommend that you mail by the Friday before election Tuesday since the ballots must be received by the election office by the close of polls Tuesday. They are standard punch-card ballots that look exactly like the in-person ballots. Maybe there is a difference between local absentee and foreign absentee deadlines but I don't know of any. Millions vote absentee here because they are like me, too lazy to go to the polling place. I think it is a better way to vote. You can take your time and review background material. If there are long lines at the polling places, it is easy to feel rushed. John

To: Jon Cave who wrote (78671)	11/12/2000 3:15:49 AM
From: isopatch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 95453

Agree Jon. If we're going to hand recounts to remedy punch problems? There's going to be 26 punch card using counties just in Florida, let along in WI, IA, OR and NM where all kinds of irregularities including fraud have been reported. That's why so many have cautioned Gore this is a "slippery slope". To really fully enfranchise ALL the voters in ALL the dozens counties in ALL those states, many much larger than W. Pm Beach Cty, who know how much time that would take? IMHO there's NO WAY it could be done in time for the scheduled 12/18 meeting of the presidential electors. And probably not even this year! Then there are all the lawsuits that would have to be delt with in all those counties and states. Put all this together is it's clearly subversion of a legally conducted election. That is the path the Gore people are forcing this process to take. It's destructive AND dangerous for this nation to start down that path. Because once we do, we have to follow that path through all the counties in states where close votes and irregularities both occurred. THAT'S why I agree with the Bush attempt to stop the manual recount in W.P.B. via a court order Monday. If that attempt fails, the only way choice left for Bush will be to fight fire with fire and demand EQUAL RIGHTS to a hand recount for ALL Rep voters who where unable to get their presidential vote counted due to punch card problems. Isopatch