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To: Scumbria who wrote (60969)	11/12/2000 3:26:02 PM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 93625

Has anyone noticed that scumbria has abundant explanations to support each & every position he supports? That, in itself is not unusual. There are an abundance of 'Know it All's' on these threads. What is unusual is that he frequently misinforms, uses unsupportable statements as though they were fact & outright lies. He excels at sprinkling this misinformation with a modicum of factual information & does so in a persuasive manner. Then he righteously defends himself by ignoring instances when he is caught lying while attempting to deflect attention on the messenger by attacking them, while he frequently, yet falsely defends his honesty & integrity with more unsupportable misinformation. He is a legend in his own mind. Ö¿Ö

To: Scumbria who wrote (60969)	11/13/2000 11:36:01 AM
From: Dave B	Respond to of 93625

Scumbria, Hole punches tend to work better when there is a lot of force applied. Slower acceleration of the blade through the paper tends to leave ragged edges. If the hole is not cut cleanly, it is possible that one side may be left hanging, particularly if the blade is dulled. Zeev's point is not as ridiculous as you make it out to be. The primary issue is that there were multiple punches, not that there were no punches. Unless, of course, you guys are trying to claim that there was a "mysterious" third hole that they tried to punch that didn't get detected. Let's drop the "old people can't punch holes" issue -- they certainly can, and apparently did it twice. Dave