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To: kodiak_bull who wrote (78790)11/13/2000 10:51:17 AM
From: isopatch  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
<taking batches of ballots and surreptitiously using a stiff wire>

K.B. As I recall Doug's post, he wasn't referring to punch cards already completed by individual voters.

His point was that poll workers and party supervisors have access to enough unused and spare ballots to manipulate a close election.

As we know national voter turnout across the nation is only about 50%. This leaves a great many registered voters punch cards available for this kind of ballot box stuffing fraud.

Doug also pointed out that a quick look of most inter-city democrat controlled areas have for decades exhibited voter participation so high as to be largely fictitious.

The difference between the 50 or 60% of reg voters who probably did vote and official democrat "reported" figures constitutes the % of ballot box stuffing.

This is why democrat inner city areas have been called political "machines" for many may years.

If Dubya pulls this out of the fire? Maybe what the public has witnessed on TV in recent days would provide a mandate for a massive FBI and Justice Dept operation to clean out these cockroach nests of political criminals:

1. Arrive unannounced and impound ALL voting records in these inner city areas.

2. Publicize the massive fraud with nationwide network TV special reports and...

3. Put all the perpetrators in the slammer including William Daily<g>.

Know this has a snowball's chance in hell of happening, lol. But I can dream<g>.

Iso



To: kodiak_bull who wrote (78790)11/13/2000 11:10:17 AM
From: Winkman777  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 95453
 
Hi kb. Wrt: <<and she was the marionette being prompted by the mysterious guy who gave her orders, live on world TV, to do this or that. "Pull my strings/And I'll dance for you/I'm your puppet." >>

Didn't see it, but from your description and my experience, it sounds like an attorney giving her advice. Most likely she was scared as hell, and leaning on her lawyer.

BTW: Nixon lost to Kennedy: It is generally accepted that there was vote fraud in Chicago as well as "downstate" Illinois, with Daley's boys being probably more effective criminals. But Nixon needed Illinois AND another big state like Michigan or Texas to win. Heard Doris Kearns Goodwin say this yesterday. His concession was a practical as well as probably patriotic decision.

Theories can tend to become "validated" as they are passed along.

Conspiracy theories are like gossip - hard to resist and often devisive and destructive to the common good. As seppo pointed out, we need to learn to work together better.
IMO being a "uniter" was Bush's most effective campaign message. If he walks his talk, Bush could be an effective president.

There are politicians who are honest and refrain from negative campaigning. E.g. Wisconsins Senators Feingold and Kohl.

IMO the most expeditious and fair conclusion to this election is for Gore to concede by Friday. It's the right thing for him to do.

Take care. Winkman