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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Krowbar who wrote (3325)	11/13/2000 11:18:12 PM
From: average joe	Respond to of 28931

Contrived by men, Deli? It is instinctive to men to believe in God. If you don't believe in God all you've got is yourself and from what I see in your posts it would be a very sad existence indeed. Nothing hurt my faith in God more than organized religion but that is not God's fault, I never blamed him for that. You know a lot about psychiatrists don't you? I imagine with your ideals you must need them a lot. Read here what it has to say about your crutch Deli newadvent.org

To: Krowbar who wrote (3325)	11/14/2000 12:27:21 AM
From: cosmicforce	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

Now the real question for the psychiatrists is "why do most people have the deep need for an irrational belief in God in the absence of any evidence for one?" Del, I think the real answer for this lies in evolution. A long time ago intellect divided along two major divisions. There was thought involving innovation and that which backed the status quo. Each type of thought construct can be right in some circumstances and wrong in others. By having a balance of the two we didn't spend all of our time relearning how to bake bread. Religion also provides a way to satisfy cravings for constancy in times of radical and unsettling changes. In technological societies there is always a tension between those who embraced the LAST technology and the ones that embrace the NEW technology. Religion is the tool that society uses to bridge social evolutionary chasms and provide the late-adopters a needed lag time to adjust to the new paradigm. When I first started working for companies, I thought innovation was the only way to succeed. It is exceedingly difficult to manage an organization with a bunch of mavericks, though. Someone has to take out the garbage, do the paperwork, clean the dishes, and work the mines. Religion was a way to give meaning to people doing these tasks. Religion has always been more important to the underclass than to the ruling class. The ruling class must APPEAR to embrace it to legitimize it, but never do really at a personal level unless it is to dominate.

To: Krowbar who wrote (3325)	11/14/2000 1:50:05 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 28931

Good evening Del While I respect what you are telling me I have to admit to you that I am rather dubious. I posted the article in response to what imo was a bunch of cra.. posts about how all Christians, believe what they do, in opposition to the facts. Those that have come to a firm conclusion about the reality and truthfulness of the claims of Jesus Christ are held to be to be some kind of subhuman idiot children who are too weak to face reality, and therefore seek refuge in an imaginary friend. While I think it would be disingenuous to say there is no psychological or moral need for God, it must also be said that there is at least as much Psychological incentive to disbelieve, than there is for faith. I don't know your heart Del, however I would urge you to look within and ask yourself if there is not something that is blocking your spiritual view. I argue that not only is the existence of God true, but that it is obviously so. The Bible says that God is revealed to all humanity through Creation, extrinsically and through Conscience, internally. It is so obvious, that God claims there is no excuse for missing it. The dog ate my homework won't cut it with God. That does not even include God's special revelation through the Cannon of Scripture and the claims of Christ, validated by His Resurrection from the dead. Now the real question for the psychiatrists is "why do most people have the deep need for an irrational belief in God in the absence of any evidence for one?" I submit to you Del, that faith in Christ is not only Rational, but that there is more than ample evidence to believe. I think the irrationality is the other way around Have a good day Greg