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To: Carolyn who wrote (73542)11/13/2000 11:02:50 PM
From: Snowman  Respond to of 769667
 
WASHINGTON (UPI) - Democrats will demand an equal hand in conducting all Senate business if a still-undecided election in Washington state swings their way.
Senate Minority Leader Thomas Daschle said Monday that Democrats will demand co-chairmen and equal representation on all Senate committees during the next Congress if they win the Senate seat for Washington state and Texas Gov. George W. Bush wins the White House.

Daschle said Democrats will demand committee representation "as close as possible to the ratio of the Senate." Daschle added that he would use powerful Senate procedures to force Republicans to divvy up responsibility fairly.

"I would hope that they would not force some unfair ratio on the caucus because we would not allow that to happen."

A spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott declined to comment on Daschle's warning.

Democrats said Monday that if the Senate is split 50-50, then the committees that conduct the business of the Senate must be split along similar lines. Chairman on the committees also would share power with "co-chairmen" under an unprecedented agreement.

The battle for control of the Senate hinges on a still-undecided race in the state of Washington.

After Tuesday's elections, Republicans could hold a 51-to-49 majority in the Senate next year. But that figure assumes that incumbent Republican Sen. Slade Gorton beats Democrat challenger Maria Cantwell, which still is not certain.

Votes in Washington still are being counted. Gorton leads Cantwell by about 5,500 votes. But that total does not include about 360,000 uncounted mail-in ballots, according to Washington Secretary of State spokesman David Brine.

But 170,00 of the 360,000 uncounted votes come from heavily Democrat King county, leading Democrats to predict an eventual victory by Cantwell.

"There are still a lot of ballots to be counted," Daschle said. "For us, the good news is that King County has not turned in its final count. We fully expect that it will be very, very close. But our expectation is but that when King County gets in we will have sufficient votes to have Maria Cantwell declared the winner."

Both sides expect a time-consuming recount of the ballots after a winner is declared.

If Cantwell wins, the Senate will be split 50-50 along party lines. But even that number assumes that Connecticut Democrat Sen. Joe Lieberman is serving as elected in the Senate and not serving as vice president along with would-be President Al Gore.

If Gore wins the White House, Lieberman will be forced to abdicate his seat in the Senate. And Republican Gov. John Rowland has said he would appoint a Republican to fill Lieberman's spot.

But Daschle said Monday that if Cantwell wins and if Gore loses his bid for the White House, he will use all of the parliamentary tools at his disposal to force an unprecedented power-sharing agreement on the Republicans.

Technically, even in a 50-50 split, Republicans still control the Senate. The sitting vice president has the authority to break any vote tied in the Senate - including committee assignments. But Daschle indicated Monday that former Defense Secretary Richard Cheney's vote does not count, as far as Daschle is concerned.

"The vice president is not a member of the Senate. We have 100 members," Daschle said.

Under Senate rules, a disgruntled minority can hold up Senate business entirely for an indefinite period of time. Daschle said Monday he would use such rules, if necessary, to make the Republicans split up the Senate. "We could force deliberation on that as long as we have to," Daschle said.

Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved.



To: Carolyn who wrote (73542)11/13/2000 11:04:33 PM
From: Tom Clarke  Respond to of 769667
 
Yes, they're that stupid. And desperate.

Officials in Broward County, one of the four Demcratic stronghold counties considering a full hand recount, voted against proceeding with the process after conducting a recount of three precincts -- about 1 percent of the county's precincts -- and finding no significant errors. Charles Lichtman, an attorney for the Democratic party in Broward County, told CNN that the Democrats will go to court to try to force the county to complete the recount.

cnn.com



To: Carolyn who wrote (73542)11/13/2000 11:12:59 PM
From: greenspirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
I still think the election hinges on overseas ballots. Here's a good article on the breakdown and what's happening...

herald.com

State awaits thousands of overseas votes
BY PAUL BRINKLEY-ROGERS AND TIM HENDERSON
pbrinkley-rogers@herald.com

More than 7,000 overseas ballots have yet to be returned to Florida, more than enough to turn the corner for George W. Bush or Al Gore -- although no one knows how many will actually be sent back or where in the world they will come from.

To be counted, they must arrive by 5 p.m. Friday.

According to state law, overseas ballots that arrive after election night are stored unopened in vaults in Florida's 67 counties. They will remain there, uncounted, until the Friday deadline passes. Each county decides when to count its votes.

In Miami-Dade County, 1,699 ballots were mailed to places like Barcelona, Spain, and Managua, and came back in time to be counted on election night. That means 561 are still outstanding, but from which countries and how many military voters, no one can say.

Miami-Dade elections officials said 617 overseas ballots went to military addresses. One hundred of the 617 went to Virginia, and the remainder went to military or government addresses in 41 other states and territories.

A total of 1,082 ballots went to civilians living overseas. And the largest batch among those -- 44 -- was sent to Floridians living in Israel, where an estimated 10,000 Jews with Florida ties are living.

Election officials were not sure how many of the ballots from Israel were counted on election night and how many are still out there, or if their senders voted for Gore, as the Democratic Party believes.

``Our votes are in the mail,'' said Beverly Wolff, in an e-mail message from Haifa, Israel. ``Think of us as the cavalry riding to the rescue.'' She said she voted for Gore.

Bruce Yudewitz, director of community planning for the Greater Miami Jewish Federation, said he was not aware of any effort from Florida to organize voting from Israel. He said his organization does not endorse political candidates.

Other Florida counties where Navy and Air Force bases are located also reported that large numbers of ballots were mailed to military personnel, who Republican Party officials claim are more inclined to vote for Bush. But it was still uncertain just how many ballots are yet to be counted.

A Herald survey of 33 counties on Friday showed that 3,975 overseas ballots had not yet arrived in Florida. A Palm Beach Post survey of 52 counties on Thursday showed officials were waiting for 7,429 ballots of 15,230 that were requested. An Associated Press survey of 28 counties found that less than half of the roughly 7,000 ballots mailed overseas had not come back.

Okaloosa County Elections Supervisor Pat Hollarn said, ``I expect a sizable number -- at least a couple of hundred -- military votes, and most of those will be Republican.''

Escambia County, where Pensacola naval base is located, still had not received 1,176 ballots sent mostly to military personnel. Hillsborough County was waiting for 518. In Clay County, 195 overseas ballots, mostly military, were locked in a vault.

``I voted for Bush,'' said Army Staff Sgt. Bill Wyman, who said he was in the Middle East and is from Jacksonville. ``My vote is probably somewhere between here and Florida. That's one vote that could make a big difference.''

In descending order after Israel, Miami-Dade sent out 20 ballots to England, 17 to Costa Rica, 16 to Spain, 13 to Canada and 10 to France. Forty-six percent of those requesting ballots in Miami-Dade were Republicans, and 42 percent were Democrats.

In Broward County, an elections clerk said one survey showed 1,289 overseas ballots were mailed and 257 had not come back. But a second list showed 1,623 ballots mailed.

That second list showed 575 ballots requested by Democrats, of whom 114 were military and 461 were civilian; 596 ballots requested by Republicans, of whom 209 were military and 387 were civilian; and 452 requested by independents, of whom 119 were military and 333 were civilians.