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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: PartyTime who wrote (74644)11/14/2000 4:18:11 PM
From: Dave Gore  Respond to of 769667
 
Party, that is too pro-Gore for me. That's nonsense too. You say Bush should have conceded Florida. C'mon, get real.



To: PartyTime who wrote (74644)11/14/2000 4:20:06 PM
From: FastC6  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
<<Half of those who voted, half the nation, voted for Gore>>

You make the argument that the vote should be recounted in Florida because the machines might not have been accurate...so are the machines everywhere else fine?

Do you see the fault of your logic?....keep your bags packed.

. .



To: PartyTime who wrote (74644)11/14/2000 4:22:37 PM
From: J D B  Respond to of 769667
 
PT, that was a terrible post!

BTW, does the following sound familiar? "Criticism is better understood when rooted with reason, and not manipulative in nature."



To: PartyTime who wrote (74644)11/14/2000 4:23:45 PM
From: sunshadow  Respond to of 769667
 
PartyTime:
"Looks like to three-quarters of the nation he's gonna be a chump no matter what happens. "

Well, I doubt that, but four-quarters of me thinks you are...

"A poll was shown--I forget which network--that stated among those who didn't vote 55 percent would have voted for Gore and 33 percent would have voted for Bush"... since when are those who do not participate, a voice to heed...



To: PartyTime who wrote (74644)11/14/2000 4:24:29 PM
From: monu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
Where was the poll taken, NYC? If one thing the public learned from all this, is that it is totally fraught with partisan behaviour. All I hear is democratic judges etc... I thought judges were supposed to be unbiased, but then again how can they be when we have at least one candidate putting forth litmus tests?
For the record, I want Bush to win and I don't care how he does it, since I am convinced that there is a lot of dishonesty all around. All of this back and forth about ethics means nothing. Still, Gore's rhetoric is quite obvious that he isn't interested in what the public REALLY thinks. Let's throw 'em both out and start a new election.



To: PartyTime who wrote (74644)11/14/2000 4:33:29 PM
From: Dr. Voodoo  Respond to of 769667
 
Look: It makes just as much sense if you read it this way!

True. The Bush Camp has no reason to fear a statewide recount, or a statewide revote. Folks have got to understand that it is Gore--unknown in the national popular vote, and potentially down after Bush's absentee votes are recounted--that is the scared rabbit here.

I continue to state that Gore missed a wonderful and potentially marveling American opportunity by not conceding Florida to Bush. The whole nation would have respected him, and he'd have set the table as nice as anyone could for a future run for the presidency.

As it stands now, half of those who voted don't want him. A poll was shown--I forget which network--that stated among those who didn't vote 55 percent would have voted for Bush and 33 percent would have voted for Gore. OK, so do the math. Half of those who voted, half the nation, voted for Bush and nearly a two to one majority of those who didn't vote preferred Bush. Gore, if somehow he ends up in the president's seat, would govern with three-quarters of the nation against him, and this with all of the current controversy. Not a nice scenario for Gore.

Ultimately, Gore would have been politically better off, becoming the American hero to both Democrats and Republicans had he conceded to Bush. But I think, right now, that window has closed. Looks like to three-quarters of the nation he's gonna be a chump no matter what happens.

PT you've had one too many and it's time to go home!

PS I can't believe you made me do this.



To: PartyTime who wrote (74644)11/14/2000 4:55:47 PM
From: Knight  Respond to of 769667
 
<<As it stands now, half of those who voted don't want him. A poll was shown--I forget which network--that stated among those who didn't vote 55 percent would have voted for Gore and 33 percent would have voted for Bush. OK, so do the math.>>

An ABC News poll conducted Sunday asked voters who they would prefer to win. Results were almost evenly split:

abcnews.go.com

"And the public’s preference for the next president? It’s as close as ever, as befits this extraordinary election. Among all Americans, 45 percent say it should be Bush, 44 percent say Gore."