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To: Paul Engel who wrote (117802)11/14/2000 11:23:05 PM
From: Elmer  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Re: "I guess we'll refer to these "phony pony" chips as Geldings !"

Intel started shipping processors with 150+ million transistors a couple of years ago. First on a .25u process with HP's Intel fabed CPUs, followed by Intel's own Xeons with 1 & 2Meg L2 cache moving to .18u technology. AMD has never broken the 256K cache barrier and now we have them essentially giving up on Must-tank and throwing in the towel. Meanwhile SMP doesn't work either. They're praying that they can get 2-way SMP working by next summer(that'll be 2 years since they had it working in the lab) but only with dumbed down 256K L2 Palomino's. That will catch them up with where Intel was about 5 years ago, architecturally speaking. AMD has never shipped a device that was SMP capable and the way things are going maybe they never will. Will someone remind us why AMD's bus architecture is so superior?

EP



To: Paul Engel who wrote (117802)11/14/2000 11:42:46 PM
From: Tony Viola  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Paul, guess Intel has the market cornered in big caches. Check these prices from Ace's HW. The $3692 is back. What a market AMD walked away from. C'est la Vie. Tony

1.5 GHz Foster (DP) $694
1.4 GHz Foster (DP) $490
1.0 GHz Xeon (256K) $515 $425
933 MHz Xeon (256K) $425
900 MHz Xeon (2 MB) $3,692
800 MHz Itanium (4 MB) $4,227
800 MHz Itanium (2 MB) $1,980
733 MHz Itanium (4 MB) $4,227
733 MHz Itanium (2 MB) $1,980
733 MHz Itanium (4 MB) Pilot $3,593
733 MHz Itanium (2 MB) Pilot $1,000

aceshardware.com