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Politics : Why is Gore Trying to Steal the Presidency? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Esvida who wrote (468)11/15/2000 3:35:36 AM
From: Ben Wa  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3887
 
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Wednesday, November 15, 2000

ELECTION 2000
Navy flying home 3,000 lost ballots
Ship captain: 'A majority of the pilots aboard are registered voters in Florida'


At least one major instance of missing overseas military ballots -- involving some 3,000 absentee votes --
appears to be on its way to resolution.

WorldNetDaily reported yesterday that a source on the USS Tarawa, a U.S. Navy destroyer near Yemen,
said that "thousands" of absentee ballots were languishing onboard.

The Navy has now confirmed bundles of overseas ballots left behind -- not on one, but three ships in the
Persian Gulf region. According to a New York Post account, Cmdr. Greg Smith, a Navy spokesman, said the
ballots of some 3,000 sailors and Marines on the USS Tarawa, USS Deleuth and USS Anchorage would be
flown back to the United States "expeditiously."

Before the discovery of missing Navy ballots, Defense Department spokesman Kenneth Bacon and Navy Lt.
Dave Gai had both criticized WorldNetDaily -- Bacon publicly at a press briefing -- for its reporting on this
issue. Bacon referred to WND's initial story as "ludicrous" for reporting that some servicemen and women
suspect the Clinton administration may have somehow purposely delayed sending absentee ballots to military
personnel overseas because most historically vote Republican. Gai, the Pentagon spokesman quoted in two of
WND's stories, had previously said he was "not aware of any large-scale problems." Nevertheless, the
newssite's reports caught the attention of Rep. Joe Scarborough, R-Fla., who is now calling for a
congressional investigation into the issue.

In yesterday's WND report, Oregonian Judy Krutsinger, whose brother-in-law is stationed onboard the
Tarawa, said that although the Pentagon had reportedly contacted Florida election officials to inform them that
mail from all area warships had been picked up Nov. 7, her relative aboard the Tarawa denied that.

"We e-mailed [him] aboard ship about that. ... [H]e e-mailed back saying [the mailbags] are still onboard,"
Krutsinger told WorldNetDaily. She said the mail was contained in orange bags on 17 pallets and that "ballots
were not separated from regular mail, as they should have been."

A United Press International account reported comments from a Marine Corps captain from the Tarawa who
helped evacuate the dead and injured from the USS Cole after it was attacked by terrorists on Oct. 12.

Capt. Van P. Brinson, who did not receive his absentee ballot, wrote in a Nov. 8 e-mail: "I cannot speak for
the remainder of the crew of the Tarawa, but I do know that the majority of the Marines and sailors that I
have spoken with are in the same boat. What is distressing about the situation," he added, "is that a majority of
the pilots aboard are registered voters in Florida."

Florida law requires that overseas ballots be postmarked by Election Day, and Friday midnight is the deadline
for the state's 67 counties to receive them.

Now that the large cache of ballots has been found, "all we're trying to do is see if there's a way to get the mail
there," Smith said in the Post story.

Smith explained that the reason the shipboard mail was forgotten was because the three West Coast-based
ships were preoccupied assisting the stricken Cole after it was bombed last month.

Once someone realized that the mail contained time-sensitive ballots -- whose importance is now increased
dramatically because of the historically close race -- the Navy agreed to fly the ballots to the U.S. post haste.

Meanwhile, stateside, the U.S. Postal Service says it is fast-tracking military overseas ballots destined for
Florida -- promising to get them to the 67 county election departments the same day they arrive in the U.S.,
the Post reported.

The ballots are being processed by postal employees at the Air Mail Center near Miami International Airport,
according to an Associated Press report, where all overseas military mail sent to the United States arrives.

Ballots destined for South Florida counties are being driven to the appropriate post offices for same-day
delivery, while those earmarked for north and central Florida counties are flown to regional mail centers, then
forwarded to the local post office for delivery to election officials.

According to the AP story, as of Monday the postal service had delivered 446 military overseas ballots to
Florida since Nov. 8. An unofficial Associated Press survey of 64 of Florida's 67 election supervisors showed
that more than 19,300 overseas ballots had been mailed from the state. While over 10,000 had been returned
-- and most of those already counted -- officials could not say how many ballots were still outstanding.

Many service personnel and their families have complained to WorldNetDaily that their ballots were sent to
them by fourth class "bulk mail" -- which can delay delivery by a month or more -- instead of first class. Many
others claim they never received their ballots at all.

For those stationed on the Cole, Deleuth and Anchorage, at least, their votes seem to be on their way home.

"We understand the urgency of this situation and realize that the entire presidential election could rest on these
ballots," said postal service spokeswoman Enola C. Rice yesterday, said the AP report.

Read Joseph Farah's column today, "Those missing military ballots."



To: Esvida who wrote (468)11/15/2000 9:12:02 AM
From: Green Receipt  Respond to of 3887
 
the issue isn't the hand count, its more political and subversive.

If the florida count were to extend past the date the electoral college were to meet and Florida hadn't declared a winner, then Gore would win the electoral college and be the next president.

In this process Gore is in a Win-win situation. If the recount shows he won, then he gets florida and wins the election. If however, the counting continues and florida doesn't declare a winner, Gore still wins because he is ahead in the electoral college count.

Gore said in his speech of a few days ago that this wasn't a political issue, but actually it is. He lied to the american people yet again.



To: Esvida who wrote (468)11/15/2000 11:13:11 AM
From: The Philosopher  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 3887
 
Why are they
afraid of a hand recount of the whole state?


If it were a recount, that would be one thing.

It's not. It's examining each ballot to see whether the emanations of the penumbra of the ballot can somehow justify counting it for the candidate of one's choice.

That's a very different thing.