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To: Scumbria who wrote (117861)	11/15/2000 11:20:25 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

ELECTION 2000 Military missing absentee ballots Some Navy personnel unable to vote for new commander in chief By Jon E. Dougherty © 2000 WorldNetDaily.com Members of the military who are currently stationed overseas have complained that the Pentagon has not yet sent out absentee ballots this year, meaning they will not get to vote for a new commander in chief on Tuesday. Specifically, members of U.S. Navy aboard ships supporting the USS Cole -- the destroyer recently attacked by terrorists while it was undergoing refueling in the port of Aden, Yemen -- have either not received ballots or won't get them in time because of current deployment circumstances, Pentagon officials said yesterday. "I've heard about this within the past week," said Lt. Dave Gai, a Defense Department spokesman. "We are trying to get more information. We don't know if they were delayed through the mail." He added that due to current deployment considerations, some military members overseas likely would not get their ballots in time. "The support team for the USS Cole may not get their ballots due to intermittent mail," Gai said. "Some ballots could very well be delayed for a number of reasons." A Maine resident -- who asked not to be identified -- said her Navy daughter who is stationed in Tokyo has received her absentee ballot for every election except this one. "No one at the base will be voting because all the absentee ballots are missing," she told WorldNetDaily. Navy officials were also contacted but did not return phone calls. Critics have suggested that the Clinton administration may have purposely delayed sending absentee ballots to military personnel overseas because most, according to recent surveys, will vote Republican. The White House has denied those charges. According to Gai, officials with the Federal Voting Assistance Program -- which helps manage balloting for overseas service members -- "was not aware of any group non-delivery." Gai said depending on the home state of the member, ballots can be sent via Standard Form 186, which is a write-in ballot. States have different deadlines for such ballots, he added. Each ballot "is unit specific and handled individually," he said. Gai noted that "the military has a much higher participation [of overall voters] in the voting process" than does the general voting public. In the 1996 election, he said 64 percent of service members participated; 40 percent of those were absentee ballots. Twelve percent could not vote for various reasons, including because ballots were either sent late or otherwise not received on time. Jon E. Dougherty is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily. E-mail to a friend Printer-friendly version NEWS: Navy flying home 3,000 lost ballots Buchanan threatens injunction in recount President locks up 1 million more acres COMMENTARY: Those missing military ballots by Joseph Farah Losing the race by Walter E. Williams No banana republic here by Hal Lindsey

To: Scumbria who wrote (117861)	11/15/2000 11:20:29 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Broward just voted to do a full hand recount...

To: Scumbria who wrote (117861)	11/15/2000 11:27:26 AM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

RE:"You know perfectly well that a hand count will give the election to Gore. You made this statement numerous times in the last few days." I said It could but with Broward and Dade. They decided not to hand count. Volusia has finished there's. Maybe Palm Beach could maybe not...a few chads for Gore and few double punches for Gore and voila... This is besides the point though, no hand count is valid unless it's statewide and even then, with the early gore call by the networks, the part of FL in the central time zone should get a revote... These whiners in PBC just need to give it up. If you knew what it was like here you'd say the same thing... Expect some absentee fraud too... Jim

To: Scumbria who wrote (117861)	11/15/2000 11:27:41 AM
From: GVTucker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Scumbria, I consider myself agnostic in this whole partisan battle, and I truly have no idea who would win if the 'true' count of Florida was known.

To: Scumbria who wrote (117861)	11/15/2000 11:34:02 AM
From: The Duke of URL©	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

<The standard Republican character assassination is beginning.> Scumbria, I have been relatively unbiased in this matter. But this is what I have heard that has not been disputed. The counties picked by the Dems have been sixty to seventy % Dem. The recount committee within each of those counties selected precincts or districts which are 20-50 to 1 Democratic. The recount committees in PB and perhaps some other selected counties are 2:1 Dem to Rep. IF the above is true, then this would seem to indicate the Secretary of State's reluctance to allow these little 'fiefdoms' latitude to recount. A reluctance which would be clearly within her absolute discretion. And I do not believe the Florida SC is going to touch defining chad-think. They will leave that to the SOS. This does not sound like the "beginning of character assassination" but rather the beginning of the end of this FLORIDA matter.