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To: microhoogle! who wrote (75467)	11/15/2000 11:18:41 AM
From: Dr. Voodoo	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

What stage would you like? The margin of victory is .005% That means if you took 10 people in room you are 99% likely to get a mix of 5:5 If you did that 100 times you would still likely get a mix of 5:5 something like 100 times. How many stupid times do you want to recount the votes? I say one hand count isn't enough. I want 5. Do you have any idea what the certainty of one hand count is for the entire state of Florida?--6 million votes I might add. Why can't everybody back away from the table and wait for the absentee votes to come in? How about forming a plan of action then? Why sue over how your going to count votes in Palm Beach county? What if Brower county doesn't count dimples? The damn election is going to be screwed up beyond repair if it's not already. Dems just want to keep the door revolving long enough so that they can involve more people. They are wasting money, time and the effort of a large part of Florida right now instead of proceeding rationaly. V

To: microhoogle! who wrote (75467)	11/15/2000 11:24:35 AM
From: Kevin McKenzie	Respond to of 769670

Most of the arguments are stemming from the fact that this should be done quickly, but I beg to differ. This should be done correctly. I agree. I don't know how Baker kept a straight face saying that the hand count needed to be completed by Tuesday and the Absentee's could wait until Friday. I know this is the law, but it still sounds silly to me.

To: microhoogle! who wrote (75467)	11/15/2000 11:47:37 AM
From: J.B.C.	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 769670

Murali this is such B.S.! I'll give you this challenge. I'll give you approximately 450,000 ballots. You and your 200 or so friends get to count accurately by Saturday those ballots. Here's the rub you and 99 other people want one candidate and the other 100 want the other. And your not getting paid for the work on and on. There is no way that this process will produce an accurate count. Or take this challenge, go get 5 reams of paper, arbitrarily throw away approximately 20% of the pile so you don't know the ream page count. Now by 5:00 PM this afternoon count the pieces of paper 3 times and see if you get the same count each time. You won't. Now take that same pile to a collator with a counter, or a copy machine and let it count those sheets. It will do it right the 1st time. Yes there might be the occasional jam but you can count or replace each jammed paper individually there won't be many if any. When I was in college and we used an IBM 360 with punch cards. I would write programs with in total of excess of 1000 cards. You would verify your programs with "sets" that you knew what the answer would be. Which means that it HAD to read every card accurately. I can NEVER remember a failure of those test runs. When you didn't know what the answer was on real runs, you knew pretty close to expected results, or plain out the run wouldn't work if part of the "program" wasn't read correctly. Never happened, the occasional problem was a jam that is easy to correct. Supporters of hand counting are merely hanging on to their last thread of hope. Jim