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To: Keith Feral who wrote (4601)11/15/2000 2:16:32 PM
From: grinder965  Respond to of 196878
 
Keith, Good point....An easy one to understand is Verizon - as they migrate from analog to digital service, the growth is nothing short of stunning. Of course the real prize is when all the worlds GSM users start to migrate over to W-CDMA. The Forbes article I pasted several days ago contains a very enlightening table which illustrates the phenonimal growth in worldwide CDMA users that is going to occur over the next 5 to 10 years. The Q wins in a big way during this timeframe ....the only question that remains is how BIG!



To: Keith Feral who wrote (4601)11/15/2000 2:43:32 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 196878
 
<We have 4 years of uninibited growth in revenues and EPS in front of us.> What happens after 4 years? Acceleration of demand and EPS?

Mqurice



To: Keith Feral who wrote (4601)11/18/2000 1:00:55 AM
From: Eric L  Respond to of 196878
 
Hi Keith,

Re: KDDI 'au Group' & TU-KA Group Wireless Web Subscribers

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. It has been a busy week.

<< The number I quoted has nothing to do with sub growth. It has to do with the CONVERSION of existing customers with regular service to the wireless internet service >>

Well that makes 1 million even more exaggerated then, doesn't it?. <g>.

I would assume that KDDI is attracting some new subscribers as well as converting some of their existing ones, wouldn't you?

I did understand, what you said, however, when I saw your statement "KDDI is converting something like 1 million customers a month to their new wireless internet services".

My responses to you mentioned conversions and redeployment of services, as well as new subscriber adds (net sub growth).

What occasioned my original "Say What?" was that I had read an article the previous evening stating that "between April 2000 and September 2000, the total number of cell phone users in Japan increased by 4,597,100. But the DDI cellular group gained only a tiny 200 subscribers, while Tu-Ka, a DDI phone unit that operates a different system (PDC 1.5 GHz), added 295,500.".

I had also just looked at the total cdmaOne subscriber numbers for the combined KDDI 'au' group (6.7 million) through October end, and noticed the statement "In October, the total number of users accessing the Internet through cell phones in Japan jumped 10.7 percent from September to 21.8 But of that total, KDDI's EZ-Web only accounted for 19 percent while DoCoMo's "i-mode" service held 64 percent.".

1 million subs converting to wwa per month seemed a tad high.

At any rate, I just ran the numbers using Slackers source ("Japan: Number of Subscribers by Carriers"), looking at each of the last 6 months in an effort to figure out just how well (or poorly) KDDI was doing. .

I was pleasantly surprised to find that while the cdmaOne growth rate is not spectacular, net adds are higher than I estimated, and DDI has over 4 million wireless web customers using cdmaOne and PDC.

These are the results of a drill down on the numbers:

* KDDI "EZ-WEB" net subscribers increased 404,683 per month (average). This includes TU-KA Group which uses PDC 1.5 GHz.

* KDDI cdmaOne net subscribers increased 232,933 per month (average).

* KDDI PDC net subscribers decreased 194,200 per month (average).

* TU-KA PDC net subscribers increased 38,633 per month (average).

There is one thing that I am not positive of, but that I will try to verify.

I am under the impression that KDDI's TU-KA Group uses wireless web "EZ-WEB" on PDC which would account for the discrepancy between the "EZ-WEB" adds and the cdmaOne adds.

I know they offer "EZ-WEB". I don't think they offer cdmaOne (yet). It is also possible that "EZ-WEB" may be offered on PDC by KDDI (DDI and/or IDO)

My source documentation is here:

tca.or.jp

You may wish to drill down further than I did, if you think I've reached some wrong conclusions. Could be typos, miscalculations and these are unaudited. <g>

Here are my summaries of Net Increases in (KDDI's (DDI + IDO + TU-KA ) "EZ-Web" internet services and cdmaOne (IS95B) subs from both new adds and conversions from cdmaOne (no web service), PDC or PHS:

=========================================
April Ending KDDI (combined) Sub Totals

* "EZ-Web" Total subs = 1,794,600
* _cdmaOne Total subs = 5,203,200
* KDDI PDC Total subs = 4,965,400
* TUKA PDC Total subs = 3,568,400
=========================================
May
* "EZ-Web" = + 401,200
* _cdmaOne = + 292,800
* KDDI PDC = - 267,800
* TUKA PDC = + 69,900

June
* "EZ-Web" = + 494,900
* _cdmaOne = + 354,300
* KDDI PDC = - 330,600
* TUKA PDC = + 52,400

July
* "EZ-Web" = + 358,000
* _cdmaOne = + 177,700
* KDDI PDC = - 236,100
* TUKA PDC = + 52,400

August
* "EZ-Web" = + 466,300
* _cdmaOne = + 223,800
* KDDI PDC = - 203,100
* TUKA PDC = + 44,800

September
* "EZ-Web" = + 377,500
* _cdmaOne = + 181,400
* KDDI PDC = - 160,200
* TUKA PDC = + 27,700

October
* "EZ-Web" = + 330,000
* _cdmaOne = + 167,600
* KDDI PDC = - 156,500
* TUKA PDC = + 11,200
================================================
October Ending KDDI (au Group) Total Subscribers

* "EZ-Web" Total subs = 4,222,700
* _cdmaOne Total subs = 6,600,800
* KDDI PDC Total subs = 3,800,200
* TUKA PDC Total subs = 3,800,200

================================================
Total Net KDDI (au Group) Adds for last 6 months

* "EZ-Web" = + 2,428,100
* _cdmaOne = + 1,397,600
* KDDI PDC = - 1,165,200
* TUKA PDC = + 231,800

Average Monthly KDDI Net Adds for last 6 months

* "EZ-Web" = + 404,683 subs / mo.
* _cdmaOne = + 232,933 subs / mo.
* KDDI PDC = - 194,200 subs / mo.
* TUKA PDC = + 38,633 _subs / mo.
================================================

Have a great weekend.

- Eric -



To: Keith Feral who wrote (4601)11/18/2000 1:10:51 AM
From: Eric L  Respond to of 196878
 
Keith,

<< you do not need more than 10% sub growth for QCOm to maintain it's 40% revenue growth ... 10% growth for DDI, PCS, etc... equals a sustained growth of 50 or 60% for QCOM >>

We is gonna have to talk about that one. <g>

... and I do assume your throwing WCDMA royalties and licensing and chipsets in there.

... and yes new adds, churn adds, and replacement sales, do add up once a wireless mobile provider obtains a critical mass of subscriber base.

... but we is still gonna have to talk about it.

<< Look at the growth of companies like CSCO which maintained 60% growth rates in networking despite the unimpressive results of virtually any telecom service company. >>

Wrong analogy. I've held CSCO a LONG time, and although they are starting to get their foot in the door with the telecom carriers, and will probably do fine once they develop a coherent telecom strategy, their bag right now is the Enterprise network.

The carriers are the domain of LU and NT.

Good thing. Had their primary market been the carriers, even their impressive growth rate and earnings report and Chambers CC might not have held up the stock, and the NAZ could well be at 2500 today instead of 3027.

Cisco has been through 4 distinct periods of hypergrowth, and the last has subsided (but a new one could begin any day). The breezes fanning hypergrowth are blowing.

Qualcomm has been through one, and it will see another or 2 or 3, I am confident.

Subscriber growth (while not a be all and end all) is a key metric, for Qualcomm. We just finished QCOM's last Q3 with 100% subscriber growth. Hopefully the growth rate will pick up. I'm sure it will. The first 3 quarters of this calendar year have not been too impressive. At best we will see 80% subscriber growth this calendar year.

You and I as Qualcomm investors have felt the effect of declining sub growth.

Qualcomm is a highly valued stock, even though it is undervalued today.

With 10% subscriber growth, mark my words, our valuation would be considerably lower. Snyder and Cabi, and maybe even Luke, Cenna, and Roberts, would be batting us around like a tennis ball.

<< We have 4 years of uninibited growth in revenues and EPS in front of us. >>

We do if the sub growth rate of cdmaOne and cdma2000 keeps up and WCDMA sub growth kicks in substantial numbers starting in 2004.

10% sub growth just ain't gonna hack it. We'll have a PE of 30.

All JMHO of course.

... and we can chat about it another day.

- Eric -