To: Michael Bakunin who wrote (85521 ) 11/16/2000 4:52:46 AM From: Don Lloyd Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070 mb -reagan.com "...The Democratic cover-up by Election Officials began before the ballots were "officially counted. Massive and continuing publicity that declares "voter confusion" before the ballots are "counted" or results released indicates that the "double-punch" error was known before the ballots were totaled "officially." Palm Beach County was one the last counties in Florida to release its voting results, and the Palm Beach County results were critical in a last minute "surge" in Gore votes that reduced Bush's lead from 50,000 votes (in Florida overall) to less than 1500. Late delivery of votes, with the specific precinct vote count delayed until the required number of votes is known, is classic symptom of local election fraud. It DOES NOT prove fraud, but late delivery of vote results is the most common way of tampering with the vote, and is essential if ballot tampering is involved in the vote fraud. Late delivery of fraudulent votes has happened in several previous democratic elections at the national level, showing that the individuals involved had close knowledge of previous fraud and its successes. Local Democrat officials are claiming that these are "double -punched! They know...and were told early this morning! to collect 3000 old folks who could claim they were confused...They quickly needed a cover story to explain that the ballots were "confusing" to create the 3000 Gore - Buchanan "voters" that they need. But in the remaining two days after the elections, no local democratic officials can physically identify the required number (19,120) "confused" witnesses who can attest to actually double-punching ballots. ANY citizen who realized that they double-punched a ballot at the polling booth was able to exchange ballots and resubmit his choices. IT IS CRITICAL TO UNDERSTAND THAT THESE "REPLACED" BALLOTS WERE SET ASIDE IMMEDIATELY, AND WERE NEVER COUNTED IN THE MACHINES. The 19,120 double-punched ballots include ONLY those actually an error (approximately 1300) and those double-punched by fraud. Note, after the first two days, the local party officials have softened their rhetoric and are only claiming "hundreds" of "confused voters." Again, no actual lists of these citizens have been released for confirmation or interviews by investigators. Further evidence of deliberate double-punching of ballots, and perhaps of making an error in the fraud itself by double-punching a Buchanan hole rather than a Gore hole is the immediate cover-up effort by democratic officials. The national Democratic Party hired a Texas telemarketing firm to call several thousand voters in Palm beach County late Tuesday night specifically to "prompt" Palm Beach citizens to declare "they were confused" by the ballots, and specifically to declare being "confused" between the Gore and Buchanan ballot positions. Further, the national democratic telemarketing campaign was instructing users in what to claim ballot positions to be "confused" with, and was specifically prompting the people that they called to declare a "Buchanan-Gore" confusion on Tuesday night, before midnight. This was approximately 5 hours BEFORE the Palm Beach results were released. Also, national democratic teams were in flight to Palm Beach immediately after midnight, again before the results were officially known to anyone. This indicates that democratic leaders at the precinct level (and thus the national level) knew about the "confusion" (accidentally/incorrectly double-punched Buchanan ballots) BEFORE the Palm Beach votes were counted, and several hours before they were released to the Florida election officials. Note too that this telemarketing campaign began before the Palm Beach results were announced. Before anyone (other than election officials) knew how any double-punched ballots existed, nor which ballot choices (for president) were double-punched. No democratic source has ever offered proof of this "vast number" of confused voters, and no Democratic operative has offered any explanation why "confusion" needs to be advertised and prompted for in a telemarketing phone blitz at any time other than this elections. This indicates that the actual number of voters actually "confused" is minor, and further indicates that the Gore-Buchanan "confusion" may exist ) The individuals who are suing now to revote that ballots are experienced democratic officials, donors, and activists - on even a formerly elected official. Democratic officials in Palm Beach County have not been able to explain why 15,000 ballots were double-punched in 1996 AND in 2000. The "butterfly ballots were NOT used in the previous Presidential election. Thus, there is a pattern not of massive error by the voters, but of continued fraud by the Democratic election committee members and local officials. Further indication of deliberate fraud is that there is no evidence of previous massive "voter error" in Democratic primaries, Democratic runoff's, or Congressional races the past years. Specifically, Massive "voter confusion" does appear in the democratic primaries (where Democratic votes must be accurate!) and where there was little effective opposition to the Democratic Congressman (Waxler) Symptoms of voter fraud by double punching will stand out by the number of the doubled punches, and by the remaining choices on the ballet. A Republican voter will have in almost every case have punched Bush + several other Republican candidates. So look for how many "Bush + Gore" ballots have mostly Republican choices below. THESE ARE FRAUDS. They represent Bush votes that were stolen. There are about 15,000 of these ballots. ..." Regards, Don