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To: chitral who wrote (37835)	11/15/2000 7:32:12 PM
From: cheryl williamson	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 64865

Hi Chitral, Computers are clearly used for both speed and accuracy. That point doesn't speak to the problem of the machine's relative accuracy in counting. It points to a LIMITATION of what the card-reader is capable of doing. If the card-readers in Fla. are working properly, then, they will provide a very accurate counting of the ballots, provided that the ballots are correctly punched, agreed??? I believe it was with punch-card technology we got the phrase "garbage in = garbage out". Too bad you can't correct an incorrectly punched card and re-submit it like you could when running payroll in the old days!!! So, when it comes to "voter intent" for all incorrectly punched ballots, does the voter bear any responsibility at all in the matter??? In my view, recounting ballots, especially punch cards, by hand is a security breach and should not be tolerated. Clearly, Fla. law does tolerate it. Then again, maybe punch cards should be outlawed for use as ballots.

To: chitral who wrote (37835)	11/17/2000 12:38:56 PM
From: davidrmm	Respond to of 64865

I would agree that if a ballot is not counted by a machine and it is identified as such then a review of why and if it should be used in the count could be justified. However it would have to be a balanced review with written procedures of acceptance before hand. To go through ALL ballots by hand makes no sense what so ever. It is hard enough to control the ballots to prevent fraud using a machine count. The opportunity for fraud with a hand count is infinite unless we are dealing with small volumes of ballots. If you look at the county maps on geocities.com you will see that Gore won in the heavy concentration of population areas (even in California). Those areas have to have a machine count. It also shows why the Bicarmel make up of the Senate vs the House as well as the electoral college makes sense to prevent power being concentrated in a few small areas of the country to the detriment of the country as a whole. This election has been a great Civics lesson and why it is important to vote and make a choice. No choice is a "cop out"