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To: Follies who wrote (77281)11/15/2000 11:40:57 PM
From: amadeus  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769667
 
in palm beach there were 10 republicans, 8 democrats, and 5 independents examining the ballots.

so i guess republicans don't trust their own people.



To: Follies who wrote (77281)11/15/2000 11:43:46 PM
From: Carl R.  Respond to of 769667
 
The Florida contest has now devolved into partisan politics of the worst kind. Florida is of course a predominately Democrat state, historically, and so on the Democrat side we have the Palm Beach Electoral Board, the Attorney General and the Florida Supreme Court (either all members or all but one were appointed by Lawton Chiles). On the Republican side we have the Secretary of State as well as the Governor who has recused himself, a few local judges, and the boards of some other counties.

As we know, the Secretary of State (Republican) tried to stop the manual recounts, but that was declined by the Florida Supreme Court (Democrat). Taken with party affiliation in mind neither result was surprising. Also note that the Florida Supreme Court was careful not to provide any reason for their result, thus preventing an appeal to the US Supreme Court (Republican) where the ruling could have been overturned.

From here on out, if we project continued partisan politics, we can expect:
1. The Palm Beach recount will continue until enough votes are found to put Gore ahead. Rules as to what types of punches are countable will be modified as necessary to accomplish this result. Similarly some punch cards may be "manipulated" so as to affect the way they may be interpreted.
2. The Secretary of State will refuse to accept the Palm Beach recount and will certify the result not including that result.
3. The Secretary of State will be sued and the Florida Supreme Court will ultimately order her to include the Palm Beach results.
4. Republicans will ultimately appeal the issue to the US Supreme Court where they may overrule the Florida Court. Alternately they may decline to hear the case, especially if the Florida Court writes the decision in such as a way as to make it difficult to overrule.

Not a very pretty projection, I admit. I hope some parties to the dispute can fine a way to arise above pure partisan politics, but I doubt that they will. Last week I would have give odds at 90% Gore, 10% Bush, but now I think that the odds are more like 70% Gore and 30% Bush.

As for people I talk to, they have gone from interest to disgust. The most predominate reaction I get is that they would like to have a new election with all new candidates.

Carl