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To: SofaSpud who wrote (317)	11/16/2000 7:36:25 PM
From: PMS Witch	Respond to of 37263

I think you are absolutely correct about the deterioration of our society over the last generation or so. I try to imagine today's citizens responding to the challenges faced by earlier generations: Wars, depression, and building the nation from wilderness. Just picture some purple haired freak with nipple rings skateboarding up against the Nazi stormtroopers. I've expressed more than my share of dissatisfaction over Canada's taxation: Both rates and complexity. But my biggest complaint is how our own money is used to bring about such degradation to our society. As Day points out, we tolerate high levels of such ills as crime, addiction, illegitimate birth, and lying politicians. Anyone who looks like they will slow, or reverse this trend has my support. Like many, I don't welcome a Bible-thumping, fire and brimstone, give-em-hell, preacher in charge, but when I see the destruction wrought by the alternative, I'm prepared to reach for the ear-plugs and let Mr. Sunday School give it a try. Cheers, PW.

To: SofaSpud who wrote (317)	11/16/2000 9:54:19 PM
From: marcos	Respond to of 37263

Yes, sadly it looks like Kim Campbell was exactly correct with that comment, if a little overly honest for practical purposes, and all parties pretending to power must avoid discussing specifics until they have that power ... 'hook into peoples' emotions' - ee-yup, it's the age of the sound byte which imho exaggerates the phenomenon whereby most votes are cast in relative ignorance, and most are cast against candidates rather than for, in a search for the least evil ... so pandering to emotion rather than intelligence will get you better stats. However, that does not mean the two will necessarily lead in different directions, and as humans we all have both ... imho emotion can supply the drive to execute in a project where intelligence has determined the direction ... hopefully increasingly more than the reverse, if we are developing as a species ... and the voters aren't stupid overall, imho we'll tend to demand more specifics, election time is when we get to ask questions and examine the answers and make a decision based on them ... on The Evil CBC's 'Town Hall' the other night [last night?] i saw Rock nailed on specifics by a well-spoken young lady, and good for her, this we must do across the board. In the absence of answers all we have to go on are previous statements and actions of the candidates, and they've all done and/or said some pretty horrendous things ... there are many more statements by Day than have shown up on this thread btw, i saw a webpage with dozens if not hundreds, wish i could remember where. Manning was more respectable for the very reason that he was less electable, he was willing to get specific ... maybe it will remain a truism that the closer to power a pol gets, the more he has compromised himself away from qualification for that power ... or maybe we could design a more inclusive system? - some degree of prop-rep perhaps, that would give some voice to those who don't happen to fall within the boundaries of the offered political packages? ... i don't know, all i know is nobody speaks for me ... Alliance comes the closest in important ways, but the thumping will remain a concern .... cheers