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To: Scumbria who wrote (118159)	11/16/2000 11:28:47 PM
From: Jim McMannis	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Subject: The Game Isn't Over On November 12, 2000, the Indianapolis Colts beat the New York Jets 23-15. Imagine this post-game discussion (with apologies to the Jets, a fine organization whose statistics from that game provide a convenient basis for this scenario): COLTS Good game. JETS Good game. But the game isn't over. COLTS Um, yes, it is. We won. JETS We say you didn't. We do not accept what the scoreboard says. We had more passing yards, 271 for us to a mere 210 for you. COLTS So you did. But we had more points at the end. JETS We even had more total yards, 367 to your paltry 358. COLTS True. You beat us there, too. But we had more points at the end. JETS You're trying to steal the game. You're manipulating the system. This doesn't reflect the will of the fans. New York is a more populous state, so clearly there are more Jets fans than Colts fans. The victory belongs to us. COLTS But we had more points at the end. JETS We're not sure what you're afraid of and why you won't get back on the field. COLTS Well, the game's over, the fans have left, and we had more points at the end. We won. JETS Your so-called "victory" means nothing. There were some calls we didn't like. COLTS No doubt. Happens every game. There were some calls we didn't like, either. But the officials make their calls and we all have to live with it. JETS We want every play reviewed and we want the option to reverse every call that went against us. COLTS But the game's over. The rules say that the winner is the one with the most points at the end. We're trying to focus on the next game, not re-hash this one forever. JETS Did we mention that we had more yards passing and more total yards? Did we mention that we have more fans than you? Chalk up the win for us, and we'll let the matter go. COLTS This is the NFL. The games are played by rules. It seems you don't like the rules. JETS We don't recognize the authority of the NFL in this matter. In fact, there is no controlling legal authority in this matter, period. COLTS This game would not have existed without the NFL, so it's hard to understand how there is no authority involved here. Are you saying that the rules you don't like don't apply to you? You determine your own victories? Sounds like something worthy of a third-world dictator. JETS The issue not the Jets winning or the Colts winning. We're talking about right and wrong and fairness and the will of the majority. COLTS Ah. So this is not about who won, but about the process. Then, if you had won, you would still insist on every play being reviewed, correct? Even if it meant a reversal of your victory? JETS That's irrelevant. COLTS Oh really. We noticed you didn't protest any games you won this year. And if you had had more points at the end instead of us, would you still be questioning the authority of the NFL to declare the winner? JETS You're trying to confuse the fans. COLTS You knew the rules going in and you agreed to them. You knew - and even publicly discussed - the possibility that WE might have more passing yards and more total yards, yet YOU could still win the game. In fact, you seemed to relish the idea. So if you weren't opposed to that possibility before the game, why are you coming out now and saying it's wrong? Apparently the system is OK until you lose. JETS There were several calls we didn't like and those cost us the game. COLTS We're pretty sure that has happened to us in other games. But you knew going in that calls by officials sometimes go in your favor and sometimes go against you. That was fine with you before the game, but when we came out with more points at the end, you suddenly didn't like the system. JETS You're really intent on stealing this game, aren't you? So you had a couple of more points than us at the end of regulation. Big deal. We remind you again: we had 367 total yards to the pathetic 358 total yards you managed. We say the rules need to be changed so that the team with the most fans and the most total yards wins, starting with the game we just finished. COLTS You are welcome to try and change the rules for the future. But it's a bit disingenuous to try to change the rules after the game is over and apply them retroactively, especially when you agreed to those same rules before the game. JETS We'll see you in court. - end

To: Scumbria who wrote (118159)	11/17/2000 12:43:42 AM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

SCUMbria - Re: "The higher maximum junction temperature indicates that the parts test at a higher temperature, which is a sign of extra margin. " The higher maximum junction temperatures indicate that the ThumperBurn burns more heat than can conventionally be removed from the IC package - leading to excessive junction temperatures. The device does operate at those temperatures - no argument there. Now - on Monday, you will have your own new spin on the Pentium 4 clock speed and power dissipation and junction temperature issue - where what was good and great for AMD will be just the opposite for Intel. We all look forward to your treatise on what "is" is. Paul