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To: Mika Kukkanen who wrote (8222)	11/17/2000 5:59:16 AM
From: Mika Kukkanen	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

A direct quote from an email this morning: Here's a first: 3G mobile networks,and profit,in the same sentence. NEC are building the first commercial UMTS network in Europe, due to go live next Spring. For information on NEC's 3G Profit Programme visit tm0.com

To: Mika Kukkanen who wrote (8222)	11/17/2000 9:20:42 AM
From: Puck	Respond to of 34857

Happy Birthday to me for tomorrow Let's all wish Mika a happy birthday and many more: Happy birthday Mika! God Bless!

To: Mika Kukkanen who wrote (8222)	11/17/2000 11:59:54 AM
From: gdichaz	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 34857

Mika: Happy Birthday from one of the Qualcomm investors. Out of curiousity, any idea where the NEC WCDMA net "is being installed" in Europe? Will be most interested in watching and determining what it is (or will be) in fact. Best. Chaz PS How is your article coming and how could we have access to it?

To: Mika Kukkanen who wrote (8222)	11/17/2000 3:28:30 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Respond to of 34857

Gee Mika, it sounds like a job for the trust-busting anti-monopoly new boss of the USA in 2001. Janet Reno, Joel Klein and Judge Jackson gave Microsoft no end of grief over alleged breaches of USA anti-trust and anti-monopoly laws. Now, you are saying that the various W-CDMA patent holders will form a monopolistic trust by pooling their patents in a cross-licensiing common property deal to exclude others from making and selling competitive products. This is NOT acceptable in the USA anti-trust laws. QUALCOMM has busted this trust by establishing Spinco with tradable intellectual property while retaining essential patents for sale separately to the W-CDMA 6 Musketeers whose war-cry is "All for One and One for All". A lot of lawyers should be able to make a lot of money. How many companies will have free access to the W-CDMA technology and not have to pay any royalties other than to QUALCOMM which refused to join the 6 Musketeers? [I'm only guessing at 6]. It's a genuine question; how many fully cross-licensed makers of W-CDMA handsets and infrastructure equipment will there be who don't have to pay any money other than to QUALCOMM? QUALCOMM has fairly and equitably licensed all and sundry, so those excluded from the W-CDMA game will have to produce cdma2000 or pay absurdly greedy 18% royalties on W-CDMA. Same as the old GSM ripoff where newcomers would have to pay about 16% royalties. No, you are wrong, we don't have to forget the word 'essential'. QUALCOMM will be paid their royalties in full. The USA military, legal and political system will see that their property is not stolen by greedy collectivist trust monopolists. Will China enjoy paying the 6 Musketeers all that money and not have a piece of the action themselves? I think not. How about the Korean makers? Are they going to be cut out of the W-CDMA trust world? Since W-CDMA is essentially an anti-competitive process designed to exclude competition, those excluded will rightfully resent the payments to non-national companies when their own companies can't participate on a royalty-free basis. I think China will be loathe to hand the GSM Guild a W-CDMA cornucopia in China. They want a piece of the action. They can get it with cdma2000 with maximum royalties of 5% or so. Mqurice PS: Happy birthday today to you! They come around faster than a new acronym in wireless - I guess you've noticed that.

To: Mika Kukkanen who wrote (8222)	11/20/2000 1:55:02 AM
From: 49thMIMOMander	Respond to of 34857

Happy birthday, sold some Nokia and invested in Orange Peels in Africa. Have some EU/African Marmalade next year, on the GPRS toast!! Ilmarinen P.S. I trust Nok to increase enough to set up the juice factory at that point, trigging point 70 euro. (anyone else interested in a couple of hectar of orange trees, every forrestfinn should have some, less need to be really long, wait 60 years for the harvest like in forrest-Finland) P.P.S. that is, in 2003 it will be koskenkorva with orange juice (timeschedule says 2002 but I have learned to multiply with pi/2), for the near future dried peels and marmalade.