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To: that_crazy_doug who wrote (19451)	11/17/2000 1:56:46 PM
From: jamok99	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 275872

Doug, Re: <<This makes integrated video an interesting challenge, because motherboards have substantially longer shelf time then video boards. If you try and integrate a high end videocard you have to redo the chipset every 6 months (which so far does not seem feasible at all).>> Your point is very well taken - I hadn't considered the effect of the extremely short product cycle in video cards on the feasibility of integrating video chips into the motherboards. Furthermore, given how such short product cycles can play havoc with a company's fortunes, (witness 3dfx, which you and I both know the story on), I wonder how far fetched is the possibility that one company (namely, Nvidia) will become the gorilla of the space, squeezing out the competition, and we'll end up with an Win - Tel (Oop, I mean AMD, of course ;)- Nvidia Axis.

To: that_crazy_doug who wrote (19451)	11/17/2000 10:20:01 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 275872

Re: I think over the long haul all pcs will be come small 2 year throwaways. Could be, but we've been running into the problem that people with systems that are really too slow for the work that they're doing refuse upgrades because they have all of their applications installed and configured just the way they want them. The system seems (to them) to be fast enough, and they don't want to go through the disruption of moving to a newer system. Hard for a PC junkie to comprehend, but I've seen this behavior fairly often. The converse is that if they're going to change PCs, the new one had better be good enough to last them for a long time - which means they demand a high performance system. Regards, Dan