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To: milo_morai who wrote (118231)	11/17/2000 5:04:03 PM
From: jim kelley	Respond to of 186894

It is clear that you have not even seen a P4 running any of the 60 + applications shown at COMDEX. It had no peer at COMDEX. It is much faster than any of the Athlon's and you do not need a benchmark to tell. It is obvious. There are applications that run on the P4 that will not be able to run on the Athlon 1.2 GHZ systems because they are too slow. It will become clear next week to all who are interested in the truth.

To: milo_morai who wrote (118231)	11/17/2000 5:13:22 PM
From: f.simons	Respond to of 186894

Willy is Limp and the World Knows it! Milo- The World knows it? Is that why Intel was up 1 1/2 today and AMD was flat? Why would the World do something that silly? Frank

To: milo_morai who wrote (118231)	11/17/2000 5:28:11 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

Milo, <<< if you're running Windows, there's simply no point in buying one.>>> The writer Kewney just about goes into a frenzy trying to come up with a "Perry Mason" moment where some Intel official would confess to some conspiracy. But on the next page, he writes: <<<For us punters, the news is simple: stop counting clock cycles. OK, some will want the newest toy. Me, for example; I'll get a P4 straight away for playing Unreal Tournament; especially with that NVidia graphics chip built in. But I'm just a sad git. For the real world, it's irrelevant.>>> Small time punters will stay small time punters. But even this small time punter will allow that sometime in the near future: <<<there will be a 2 GHz processor, and the new architecture on the new chipset will absolutely fly. The new execution engine, according to chip designer Sophie Wilson at Element 14 (www.element-14.com) is very fast indeed; and its optimisation for multimedia -- which she described as "son of MMX" is also likely to make a big, big difference to games, CAD, and other 3D program performance. So when it gets up to full speed, and new compilers are available, it will smoke. Also, Intel is hinting it will be far better at multi-tasking -- doing background stuff while you're working on office stuff. Well, it may be... Another thing in the P4's favour in a year's time, will be the fact that you can't ever expect the Pentium 3 to run at that 2GHz clock speed. Oh, there'll be a version of the P3 with 200 MHz ram; it will go faster than 1 GHz... but essentially, the silicon engine inside the P3 is old, old, old; if you build one running at 2GHz, it probably would give you around 30% improvement at best over a 1 GHz design. My expert friends reckon you'll probably never see a P3 running faster than 1.5 GHz; there's no point. They could build one, but it wouldn't process Windows programs any quicker. It would spend all its time saying; "Ooopsie, that data is not in the cache; just hang about while I go fetch it..." >>> Would you ever allow some small time punter to get near, or have any input, into the roll out of some serious hi tech product? Get serious. Mary