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To: Sly_ who wrote (80335)11/17/2000 8:56:55 PM
From: James West  Respond to of 769670
 
Congress investigating possible challenge to Florida electoral votes
By MITCHELL PROTHERO, UPI Congressional Reporter

WASHINGTON, Nov. 17 (UPI) -- Top Republicans are investigating various
strategies for challenging the vote of the Electoral College after it meets
next month to determine who becomes president. At the same time, some
experts are questioning whether the decisive votes of Florida's 25 electors
can be legally certified at all because Gov. Jeb Bush, brother of GOP
presidential candidate George W. Bush, has recused himself from the election
process.

With the battle for the presidency hanging by a razor's edge in the
Sunshine State and a number of legal challenges to the result there wending
their way through various courts, GOPers on the Hill are looking at the
possibility that congress itself may have to debate and determine the
outcome of last week's Presidential election.

Staffers for Reps. Jim Leach, R-Iowa, and James Sensenbrener, R-Wisc., say
that they have been working with the Congressional Research Service to
determine how the House and Senate would address a presidential election
which continues to be contested after the Electoral College vote in
December.

Leach Chief of Staff Bill Tate said that his office was looking at the
legal precedents that govern how members of Congress could challenge the
legitimacy of a state's electoral votes.

"It's obvious that given the uproar in Florida that for whatever reason
should the election be brought to Congress, we should be prepared for what
the various possibilities are," he said. "We don't expect it will be
necessary, although we are looking at whether a slate of electors might be
challenged by a member. I doubt the bad feelings on this [situation] might
go away before Congress gets the results."

So far, the research has determined that after the electors meet in each
state capital to vote, the results are sent to Washington, D.C., and opened
in a joint session of Congress in January.

After this, say experts, the picture becomes murky. Tate said that, while
it is unclear exactly how a challenge might occur, there is a possibility
that the Florida votes cannot be counted as official without certification
by Gov. Jeb Bush.

"Because Jeb Bush recused himself from the process and because it is our
understanding that the executive of the state must certify the results, we
don't know if they count or could be challenged," Tate said. "The CRS
material says that the governor must certify the vote. Can he delegate this
authority to another official? It's still unclear."

Without certification by the actual governor of Florida, it is therefore
possible that Florida's electoral votes might not count at all. Or the
technicality could serve as the basis for a challenge by either Democrats or
Republicans on the floor of the joint session of Congress which announces
the result.

While this work continues, House Majority Whip Rep. Tom DeLay, R-Tex., has
circulated a memo detailing the Electoral College process in the Congress,
including how to address a challenge to the electoral votes from a disputed
state.

However, DeLay spokesman Jonathan Baron denies that the memo indicates any
plan by the GOP Congressional leadership to challenge the results of last
week's election and says that it was prepared simply as legal guidance at
the request of various members.

"Several members of the GOP caucus requested information on the Electoral
College process in Congress," he said. "The memo explains the role of
Congress in examining the electoral vote; it does not set policy for the
members."

Pete Jefferies, spokesman for House Speaker Dennis Hastert, R-Ill.,
described the memo as "legal beagle talk, nothing more than a bunch of case
law on what could happen with the Florida election."

"This is not a case of the majority whip trying to overturn an election,"
he added. "It's just a working staff document so they have some idea of
what's going on."

According to the memo, a challenge must come in writing from at least one
member of the House and one senator. At that point, according to Tate, the
joint session then adjourns and each body separately debates the challenges
for two hours. Then each chamber votes to accept or reject each individual
challenge.

Then the post-challenge electoral votes are counted and a winner declared
if a majority of votes have been received from "the whole number of electors
appointed." It is unclear, however, whether this number includes electors
whose votes have been successfully challenged. If it does, then the winning
candidate would still need 270 Electoral College votes, a number which
neither candidate could obtain without the 25 votes from Florida.

Without such a majority, according to the Twelfth Amendment to the U.S.
Constitution, the House of Representatives would select the president by a
ballot, with each state receiving one vote. The Senate would select the vice
president, with each member receiving a single vote.
--
Copyright 2000 by United Press International.
All rights reserved



To: Sly_ who wrote (80335)11/17/2000 8:58:04 PM
From: Lorne  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Sly - They better not challenge the Florida vote since the Republican controlled congress is in favor of state's rights over the rights of the central government. Come to think of it so is Bush, which makes his attempt to get a federal court to overturn a Florida court seem just a tad hypocritical.