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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: KLP who wrote (2543)11/18/2000 12:16:36 PM
From: TraderGreg  Respond to of 6710
 
You may be right. But believe me, in the good old days, things weren't any different, in fact they were often worse.

1. 1800: Problem with original electoral vote plan and Jefferson and Burr tied. House finally voted for Jefferson when Hamilton gave his support. This originated a riff with Burr that ultimately led to Burr killing Hamilton in a duel.

2. 1824: Jackson got more pop vote and more elec votes than JQ Adams, but didn't have a majority. Vote went to House, Clay supported Adams, and Jackson lost.

Jackson then spent the next four years engaging in the "politics of personal destruction". The people agreed, he won in 1828 and then do you know what he did? He proceeded to create and expand the "spoils system" where political hacks got high level govt jobs in the regular Civil Service System. Meanwhile, he turned the White House into Animal House with the wildest of parties going on day and night.

3. 1876: The 15 member Commission that was appointed to resolve the disputed electoral votes decided 8 to 7 to give them to Hayes after the Independent member was promised removal of Union Occupation troops from the South.

4. 1888: Cleveland lost the elec vote but won the pop vote. He got it back 4 yrs later. I think that one just had standard hate barbs back and forth.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

TG



To: KLP who wrote (2543)11/18/2000 6:11:59 PM
From: Venditâ„¢  Respond to of 6710
 
Floridian in Jerusalem received 2 ballots

'There's no way to know whether
someone really did vote twice'


2000 WorldNetDaily.com

A Floridian living in Jerusalem says he received two absentee ballots this year, and he questioned how many others may have also been sent more than one.
According to the daily Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, Paul Chamberlain, a 25-year-old native of Ocala, Fla., said that about two months ago he received an absentee ballot listing three presidential candidates.

Chamberlain, who voted for Democratic nominee Al Gore, then said he received a second ballot with 10 presidential choices. He told the Israeli newspaper he set that one aside, but wondered aloud how many other Americans living in Israel received more than one -- and then used both to cast ballots for one candidate or to change a vote from one candidate to the other.

"I thought that maybe they hadn't received my other ballot and that's why they sent this one, so I had my mother [in Florida] call and confirm they received it, and they did," he told the newspaper.

"There's no place for an ID number or a signature on the ballot itself -- on either of the ones that I got," Chamberlain said. "My name was only on the envelope, so there's no way to know whether someone really did vote twice" or if they received two ballots or more.

In another oddity, Chamberlain said that despite U.S. reports that overseas ballots had to be in Florida counties by 5 p.m. yesterday, his ballot said it must be received by the home office by 7 p.m. on the day of the election.

Though critics have not suggested foul play by Democrats in Florida, they have pointed out the irony of Gore supporters in Israel receiving two ballots, while many military service members thought to support Texas Gov. George W. Bush haven't received even one.

worldnetdaily.com