To: TigerPaw who wrote (80936 ) 11/18/2000 12:11:44 PM From: Thomas A Watson Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667 Tiger, you claim... Show me the study, Show me the report. I have measured ergonic effects on human accuracy in repetitive tasks. From what I have done it is clear to me that for maybe 1000 or even 10000 a small accuracy advantage might go to the manual count. But for over a 1/4 million with teams of who where one corrupt team of the 50 you can move 10 20 fifty or .... votes. As I said a good slight of hand and voila a vote for Gore or an invalid for Bush appears. Tiger, do you believe that if you flip a coin up in the air a hundred times in a row that at least one time it will come up heads. Is there something rotten in Palm Beach. Read this.. It is a realistic scenario.reagan.com "Explicit statistical evidence of massive ballot tampering in Palm Beach, Fl" Assume 45,000 ballots were stuck with a stiff wire or pointed tool. It would take somebody a little bit of privacy and about 15 minutes. A ream of paper is 1 inch thick, 45,000 many ballots can be carried by one person in one handcart or box, damaged, and returned to position very quickly. More simply, they could be punched several hundred at a time while the stack is lined before being read at the voting machine - since all the ballots would already be lined up and stacked neatly in order at that time. Originally, 3,000 = Buchanan 15,000 = Bush 25,000 = Gore (Gore has approximately a 2:1 margin over Bush in Palm Beach Cty.) 1,250 = other parties and random existing errors 750 = "blank" or "protest votes"- No vote for President; other spots may be filled in. After .... 3,000 Buchanan + Gore = thrown out. 15,000 Bush + Gore = thrown out. 25,000 Gore (+ Gore) = GOOD VOTES for Gore = counted already 1,250 + others + Gore = thrown out. 750 = "blank" + Gore = Gore additional "free" votes Stamping 45,000 ballots with a tool (or other device) THROUGH the Gore slot gives: Every Gore vote = still a valid Gore vote. (No change in the total, no change in the recount.) Every Bush, Buchanan, Workers Party, and Libertarian Party ballot IS IMMEDIATELY INVALID. They will be thrown out because they have two votes. They NEVER were counted in the first place = no change in the recount. The double-punch occurs ONLY in the presidential race, and no position on the ballot is disturbed. All other races are correctly counted.. Tom Watson tosiwmee