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To: Ilaine who wrote (38803)	11/18/2000 1:00:52 PM
From: Ken98	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 436258

<<Hundreds of Overseas Ballots Rejected By BRENT KALLESTAD, Associated Press Writer TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - More than 1,000 overseas absentee ballots were thrown out Friday as Republicans complained of a coordinated challenge by Democrats, particularly against ballots from military personnel. In some counties, half or nearly all of the ballots were rejected, many of them military ballots that apparently didn't have postmarks. Orange County, for example, rejected 117 of its 147 overseas ballots. ``The party of the man who wants to be the next commander-in-chief is trying to throw out the votes of the men and women he will be commanding,'' charged Jim Post, a Republican lawyer in Duval County, where 107 ballots were rejected. ``We had a lot of ballots with no postmarks so we had to declare them invalid,'' said Dick Carlberg, assistant elections supervisor in Duval County. Thomas Spencer, a Miami attorney for Bush, said the GOP legal team would weigh whether to sue this weekend. ``One of the problems with those ballots is it is so difficult under Florida and federal law that you almost have to be a rocket scientist to comply,'' he said. Earlier this week, Mark Herron, a Tallahassee lawyer helping shepherd Democratic presidential election lawsuits through the local courts, sent a five-page letter to Democratic attorneys throughout Florida giving them tips on how to lodge protests against overseas ballots. Such protests must be lodged before the ballot is taken out of the envelope. The letter, given to The Associated Press by a Republican source, focused on protesting military ballots, which are assumed to be heavily in favor of Bush, and included a section on military postmarks.>> [...] dailynews.yahoo.com I guess Gore figured he couldn't get 1,000 chads pregnant. I thought the Dems big deal was "determining the will of the people." So much for rank hypocrisy... This whole thing makes me want to barf.

To: Ilaine who wrote (38803)	11/18/2000 3:08:13 PM
From: flatsville	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 436258

WEST PALM BEACH, Florida (CNN) -- Two men were arrested on Thursday for stealing one of Palm Beach County's voting machines, complete with its controversial "butterfly" ballot, and trying to sell it on the Internet. You still don't seem to understand how the Votomatic works. A booklet containing the ballot pages is inserted/placed along a series of punch holes on the desk top plane of the "machine." The cards are what's important not a hunk of metal and plastic with a paper ballot attached. All those two jokers had there was a historical curiosity, not an ingredient for vote fraud. I've read reports of people carrying stacks of unpunched ballots out of the polling places, haven't you? No. And that in and of itself doesn't mean much. To pull off vote fraud with a Votomatic you would need ballot sleeves and a ballot box or bag with appropriate seals and locks in addition to punched cards. And I haven't heard of any theft of blank card, sleeves, boxes or bags, or seals and locks. If you've got a url please post.