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Politics : Electoral College 2000 - Ahead of the Curve -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Venditâ„¢ who wrote (2628)11/19/2000 8:11:34 AM
From: TraderGreg  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
<<the Democrats demanded a recount in 3 Democrat counties and Bush won the election, the Democrats demanded another recount and Bush won again. The overseas ballots have now been counted and despite the 1200 military ballots being disqualified Bush now leads by nearly a thousand votes. >>

For someone as meticulous as you Vendit, it is interesting how you can misnumber these counts.
The first recount was a machine re-count that was done automatically under FL law.
The second recount has not been completed, though it has started, stopped, re-started due to actions by the Secy of State and the Bush campaign. Pending further court decisions, it is still on-going in those select counties, but it is still the second re-count.

You have also conveniently forgotten that non-military absentee ballots have been rejected as well. Moreover, in Broward (a Gore county), the rejection rate of absentee ballots was exceedingly high.

BTW, for a trader, a pullback tomorrow with the obligatory dead rat bounce is an opportunity...without having to take a short position.

TG



To: Venditâ„¢ who wrote (2628)11/19/2000 1:31:00 PM
From: Raymond Duray  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 6710
 
Hi Vendit,

Bush has already won the election based on election day returns,

That would be your partisan position and you are certainly entitled to feel that way. However, what I see is something completely different, looking at this from a mathematical perspective. What we have is the extraordinary equivalent of flipping a coin and having it land on its edge. There is no winner here and it's presumptuous for either side to claim victory.

This will eventually be decided in ways that will only partly be explained in the written decision of the Florida Supreme Court. What you won't see is the deal making that will lead to the particulars of that document. The parties and the court will be threading a needle here.

For instance, Judge Terry Lewis decided on Friday for the position of the Secretary of State. This decision was regarded as a victory by the Republicans, and rightly so, but this was not the case at all, nor was it the point of Judge Lewis making that particular decision. The calculus was that Judge Lewis is a rising star and a bright legal mind who has the opportunity to rise through the ranks and eventually take a position on the Florida Supreme Court or possibly even the U.S. Supreme Court. In order to continue to move of the judicial equivalent of the "corporate ladder", it is preferable though not absolutely necessary for Judge Lewis to have continuity of career. His decision was based on the calculation that vengeful Republicans would spend the money necessary to oust him from his Circuit Court seat when he would next be up for re-affirmation in a Florida general election. By deciding as he did, he dodged that particular bullet, and since the Florida Supreme Court almost immediately stepped in to prevent the phony victory celebrations the Bush partisans were planning for today, the Democrats in Florida have little cause to take action against Judge Lewis. Bullet dodged, career path intact.

As to the coin being on its edge, this is being worked out. But not in the media, and only to an extent in the courts. Once the leadership of the two parties are satisfied that they've reached an appropriate power sharing solution, the coin will fall fairly quickly.

JMVHO, Ray