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To: Cheesehead who wrote (71655)	11/19/2000 10:32:46 PM
From: StocksDATsoar	Respond to of 150070

To: CIMA who wrote (9) From: 200mph Sunday, Nov 19, 2000 10:22 PM ET Reply # of 10 High Tech, Communication, China Play all in one! Check out starband.com .This is Gilat! This is comapny that owns 1/3 of KSA BEIJING (Dow Jones)--Shanghai will spend millions of dollars to improve its Internet services using satellite communication technology from Israel's Gilat Satellite Networks (GILTF), state media reported Monday. Shanghai has also decided to set up a Very Small Aperture Terminal, or VSAT, application and research center with Gilat Satellite Networks, the official Xinhua News Agency reported. Accessing Internet services using VSAT technology will eventually increase connection speeds by 100 times, compared with using computers equipped with special reception and transmission cards, the report said. China's Internet service is extremely slow as millions of users attempt to log on to already overcrowded telecommunications networks. In addition, while the government rolls out Internet infrastructure in China's major cities, much of the country is still waiting to be connected to standard fixed-line telephone services. Gilat's expanded role in developing Shanghai's Internet infrastructure follows an agreement this year with China's Xinjiang province to purchase 1,050 units of the company's DialAway VSAT satellite communications equipment to be used in public call offices operated by Xinjiang Post & Telecommunications Administration. Xinjiang is an autonomous region in the far northwest of the country. -By Owen Brown; Dow Jones Newswires; 8610 6588-5848; owen.brown@dowjones.com (END) DOW JONES NEWS 10-29-00 11:05 PM KSA.V Here's a little information on KSA.V biz.yahoo.com biz.yahoo.com cbs.marketwatch.com starband.com Little KSA.V on the CDNX is 37% owned by GILTF (Gilat) and 37% by Global Space Investments. GILTF own Spacenet Inc, which in turn owns 44.7% of Starband (ipo STRB). Also DISH (Echostar) owns 19% of Starband, and MSFT own 19% of Starband. MSFT is selling the service in the US through 7000+ Radio Shacks. "Under the MOU, Global, Gilat and KSAT have also agreed to work together to identify an appropriate joint venture partner in Mainland China, develop a business plan for the delivery of Internet services to homes in China under the "Gilat To Home-China" brand name and establish a Sino-Foreign joint venture enterprise which will have an exclusive right to offer broad band internet access via satellite in China. KSAT has also agreed to pay US$1,058,500 to Gilat for the installation of an upgrade to KSAT's existing hub to provide Internet Protocol connectivity and two-way broadband Internet access via satellite to enable KSAT to provide demonstrations and services for the proposed venture. Under a separate amending agreement, Global, Gilat, KSAT and Wan have also agreed to amend their shareholders' agreement to give Gilat the right to appoint the Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of KSAT. KSAT is in the satellite telecommunications business in China." From Silicon Investor on KSA.V Subject 37429 From the RagingBull on KSA.V / GILTF ragingbull.altavista.com NOT A BUY RECOMMENDATION ON KSA.V CALL THE COMPANY (250-335-2011) AND DO YOUR OWN DD.

To: Cheesehead who wrote (71655)	11/20/2000 12:24:22 AM
From: javajake	Respond to of 150070

"how do you know how I, or anyone else, would feel in that situation????" ... my point exactly!! and, i said "i imagine you might..." i didn't presume anything. tom

To: Cheesehead who wrote (71655)	11/20/2000 1:58:58 AM
From: jmhollen	Respond to of 150070

Go Cheese.........!!! I wish they just had the minimal courage required to say "..kill the baby.." in their discussions; instead of hiding behind euphemisms like "abortion", "termination", "alternate choice", or some other mealy-mouthed BS. Gee, does "..kill the baby.." bother these liberal molly-coddlers? I could almost support their "..counseling.." (read: tout) efforts, if they'd just say "..kill the baby.." when they talk to a confused, inexperienced teen, etc.. Something about "..kill the baby.." that sort of takes the SHINE off their sales job - don't you think. I mean...., how tough would it be to just say, "..sure Mary, it's okay with me for you to just go '..kill the baby..'. I mean, that's honest and forthright and politically-sensitive enough isn't it..?? Oh, gee - pregnant! Here's a lovely alternative family-planning choice called RU-486 to help you "..kill the baby.."! Can't say the N-word, don't say the J-word in class, never say the K-word around a synagogue, but you can scream *"..F-U-C-..." in front of all the little children at the Saturday movie show, put a picture of Jesus in a bottle full of urine and call it "..Piss Christ.." at a NEA public-funded art show, and teach all the children how to "...masturbate properly...". Just make really sure you disguise "..kill the baby.." as 'family planning' or 'an alternate choice'. Oh, and that guy that beat/raped/slit/split - that's just "..temporarily abhorrent behavior.." and they have ankle radios, psycho-social therapy and rehabilitation and/or extremely longterm care.." for that...... And, concrete isn't cured in 28 days - either, it's just temporarily structurally sound and perhaps passively immobile in the current sense....!! John :-) ps: Old Adoph obviously had learned their lesson, he called it "..The Final Solution.."** as opposed to "..kill the Jews..". That must have made it so much more pallitable for 'everyone'. Those who forget their history - are led by the nose by scum like Slick, Hillary, Slick Jr., and the NOW gang - to repeat it.